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NeurAxis (NYSE American: NRXS) Q3 2026 Earnings Call
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NeurAxis Reports Record Third Quarter 2026 Financial Results Driven by 150% Year Over Year Revenue Growth · Mon, Nov 9, 2026

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0:00 Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Neuraxis third quarter fiscal year 2026 financial results conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star and then one on your touch-tone phones. To withdraw your questions, you may press star and two. Please also note today's event is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the floor over to Ben Shamsian, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

0:41 Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and thank you all for joining us for Neuraxis' third quarter 2026 Financial Results and Corporate Update conference call. Joining us on the call is Brian Carrico, CEO of Neuraxis, and Tim Hendricks, CFO of Neuraxis. At the conclusion of today's prepared remarks, we will open the call to questions. Please follow the operator's instructions to ask questions. Today's event is being recorded and will be available for replay through the webcast information provided in the press release. Finally, I'd like to call your attention to the customary safe harbor disclosure regarding forward-looking information. The conference call today will contain certain forward-looking statements, including statements regarding the goals, strategies, beliefs, expectations, and future potential operating results of Neuraxis.

1:32 Although management believes these statements are reasonable based on estimates, assumptions, and projections as of today, these statements are not guarantees of future performance. Time-sensitive information may no longer be accurate at the time of any telephonic or webcast replay. actual results may differ materially as a result of risks, uncertainties, and other factors, including but not limited to the factors set forth in the company's filings with the SEC. Neuraxis undertakes no obligation to update or revise any of these forward-looking statements. With that said, I would like to now turn the call over to Brian Carrico, Chief Executive Officer of Neuraxis. Brian, please proceed.

2:17 Thank you, Ben, and good morning to everyone joining us. Q3 26 was an important quarter for Neuraxis and I look forward to delivering several key updates today. Neuraxis generated third quarter revenue of $2 million, an increase of roughly 150% over the third quarter of 2025. Our results reflect continued progress converting insurance coverage and physician demand into reimbursed IV stem treatments. We also continue to expand covered lives and market access. With the addition of two large payers over the past 45 days, our coverage footprint now includes approximately 147 million covered lives. We are now aligning our commercial investment with that broader opportunity by strengthening our commercial footprint, including leadership, marketing, and sales presence in markets with favorable reimbursement.

3:11 Our priorities are to secure additional payer coverage and increase utilization in markets where coverage is already in place. Those priorities guide our hiring, account selection, and capital allocation. Q3 was our third full quarter operating with the Category 1 CPT code for percutaneous electrical nerve field stimulation, or PENFS. Our experience continues to show that utilization is strongest when payer coverage, physician engagement, and the clinical capacity are aligned. We are applying those lessons as we expand the commercial organization. Average selling prices remained strong as the mix continued to shift towards reimbursed treatments and away from discounted financial assistance programs.

3:56 That shift supports higher revenue per device and gross margin potential. Tim Henrichs, our CFO, will discuss the financial results in more detail. During the call, I will discuss certain areas we view as most important to the success of NeurAxis. I will begin with insurance coverage. and our operating metrics, then discuss commercial execution, the VA opportunity, and our priorities for the coming quarters. Insurance policy coverage remains the single most important driver of scalable growth, and therefore, I was pleased to announce the addition of two large payers, as mentioned earlier, in the last 45 days, bringing our total lives to 147 million. The recent payer additions expand access across several markets and increase the proportion of covered lives within many individual states.

4:46 We expect these policies to contribute to growth in the fourth quarter with a more meaningful impact in 2027 as providers implement coverage and our expanded field organization gains traction. Coverage across a meaningful share of a hospital's payer mix gives physicians and administrators greater confidence to establish an IV STEM program and dedicate clinic capacity. We continued the elevated intensity of our market access strategy, including a national search and hire of who I believe is the strongest med tech specific market access executive in the country. Misty has only been here 60 days and we are already seeing the direct results of her experience and relationships with commercial insurers, Medicaid and managed Medicaid organizations.

5:34 We continue to engage directly with payer decision makers supported by physician and academic society advocacy, published clinical evidence, treatment guidelines, and existing coverage decisions. We are encouraged by our progress with the additional large and smaller payers, although the timing of new policies continues to remain difficult to predict. We are also working to translate coverage decisions into usable reimbursements. This includes supporting the addition of CPT 64567 to state Medicaid fee schedules and expanding internal prior authorization support to reduce the administrative burden on providers. One example of a short-term hurdle is in states where Medicaid fee schedule implementation remains incomplete. We see account activation and program expansion.

6:27 A second example of a short-term hurdle is one of our newest major payers, was authorizing one device rather than the full four-device treatment course. That issue remained unsolved more than 30 days into the fourth quarter, was temporarily limiting utilization under the new policy, but we do expect it to be corrected in the coming days. These implementation steps help explain why a coverage announcement and the resulting revenue contribution do not occur at the same time. Our market access and commercial teams are focused on closing that gap while continuing to pursue additional coverage. Furthermore, we continue to make significant progress with many of the remaining large and smaller payers. We are cautiously optimistic that these efforts will result in additional coverage in the coming months.

7:21 KPIs. We will continue to provide meaningful KPIs each quarter. Our operating metrics help investors evaluate whether broader coverage is translating into more treatments and stronger account productivity. Alongside revenue and average selling price, we track ordering accounts, revenue per account, prior authorization approvals, and reimbursement availability. From IB STEM revenue standpoint, $5.5 million in 2026 versus $2.6 million in 2025, up 112%. IB STEM average selling price, $1,018 in 2026 versus $773 in 2025, up 32%. Total covered lives, $147 million. Year-to-date internal prior auth approval percentage. I have three numbers for you here.

8:25 As you remember, 12% was the number through 2025. As of 9-30, we were at 32%. As of 10-30, just over a week ago, we went to 38%. Year-to-date number of ordering accounts. 97 IB STEM accounts have ordered year-to-date versus 77 at the same point last year, up 26%. Year-to-date revenue per ordering IB STEM account, $57 in 2026 versus $33,000 in 2025, up 73%. States with the 6, 4, 5, 6, 7 on the fee schedule as of today, 27, 27 of the 50 states. Our state coverage profile also helps guide commercial investment.

9:23 The current breakdown of our commercial insurance policy includes four states with coverage of 70 to 76 percent, four states with 60 to 69 percent coverage, five states with 50 to 59 percent coverage, and seven states with 40 to 49 percent coverage. We are using this geographic concentration to prioritize field resources where access can support greater utilization. Our commercial strategy is to increase treatment volume in markets where favorable coverage and patient demand are already in place. We are prioritizing hospitals based on reimbursement, patient opportunity, and their ability to dedicate clinical capacity to IB STEM.

10:13 The strongest accounts share three characteristics. meaningful payer coverage, an engaged physician champion, and a consistent process for identifying, authorizing, and treating eligible patients. Our field teams work with each institution to address the gaps that limit utilization, whether those involve reimbursement, clinical education, referral development, or clinic workflow. Our recent experience in more concentrated territories supports the value of frequent in-person engagement. A smaller geographic territory allows the salespeople to spend more time with clinicians and hospital teams, resolve reimbursement and operational questions, and support a more consistent treatment process.

10:58 We are applying that approach as we expand our direct sales presence. We are well into the process of adding at least five additional full-time sales territories in markets with established insurance coverage. These investments are intended to deepen utilization within existing accounts, and support new account development where we see a clear opportunity for patient access and treatment growth. The Chief Commercial Officer and Vice President of Market Access we added in Q3 provide dedicated leadership for this expansion. Our Chief Commercial Officer brings experience building medical technology businesses and sales organizations, including experience at Guidant, Boston Scientific and NICO. His focus is on field execution, sales team development, and accountability.

11:49 Our market access leader is focused on securing additional coverage and resolving reimbursement barriers. We have also strengthened clinical education and account development. Our senior medical science liaison supports physician education through grand rounds, divisional presentations, and other clinical programs. Our strategic clinical adoption director works with institution and referral networks to support the integration of IB STEM into the treatment pathway. Our new marketing manager is strengthening sales training and helping the field organization communicate the clinical reimbursement and economic value of IB STEM. In October, we also launched a targeted digital campaign directed at patients and healthcare providers in markets with favorable coverage.

12:36 It's early, and we expect to begin evaluating the initial response in the coming weeks. We are coordinating these resources within selected regions so that payer support, clinical education, field sales, and targeted marketing reinforce one another to help hospitals treat more eligible patients and make better use of the coverage already in place. Clinic capacity, referral awareness, and hospital economics remain important constraints. Clinical support must be matched by available appointment time, workable authorization processes, and a clear economic case for administrators to commit resources. Our expanded commercial team is focused on those practical requirements.

13:21 This investment will increase near-term expenses. We believe the broader reimbursement opportunity supports the expansion and we remain focused on deploying capital where it can improve utilization and support sustained revenue growth. Tim will address the financial implications in his remarks. The pediatric commercial market remains our primary focus, but I now want to spend a few minutes on the Veterans Administration opportunity. The VA provides an additional growth opportunity through our federal supply schedule contract, which enables commercial access to the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs. As previously announced, we were awarded a federal supply schedule contract enabling commercial access to the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs.

14:06 We continue to see orders and reorders from multiple VA facilities with additional facilities moving through activation. That early activity supports our view that the VA can become a meaningful channel over time. Its federal purchasing structure provides an access pathway that is not dependent on commercial insurance policies. We began developing an independent sales representative model focused on VA hospitals with an initial plan for 10 representatives covering one to three hospitals each. The initial rollout in September will give us a clearer view of facility adoption, representative productivity, and the revenue opportunity as we move to year end. Those results will inform potential expansion in early 2027.

14:53 For the broader adult market, we believe a large randomized controlled trial will be important to support future medical policy coverage for functional dyspepsia. To that end, we are close to beginning enrollment in a sixth center, 300 plus patient multi-site study that is intended to evaluate IV stem in adult patients and build that evidence base. These adult opportunities can broaden the business over time while our near-term commercial resources remain focused on children's hospitals. In summary, we were up 150% year over year, landed two large payers, hired a VP of market access, hired a highly successful chief commercial officer, initiated the material expansion of our commercial team, made meaningful progress with additional payers, and much more for a very productive quarter.

15:45 Our priorities continue to be securing additional payer coverage, resolving reimbursement implementation issues, and increased utilization within covered markets. We are expanding the commercial team to support that work and will continue to track account adoption, treatment activity, and reimbursement mix. The 150% revenue growth in Q3, broader coverage footprint, and expanded commercial leadership provide a stronger base from which to pursue growth. We expect the benefit of recent coverage additions and commercial investments to develop over the coming quarter, and we will continue to focus on translating these opportunities into sustained revenue growth. I will now turn a call over to Tim Henrichs to review our third quarter financial results and liquidity. Tim, please proceed.

16:33 Thank you, Brian, and appreciate everyone joining us on the call today.

16:37 These financial results were included within our press release, which was issued earlier this morning, and were also provided in more detail within our 10Q. My comments will cover our financial results and liquidity position in more detail, including a bit of an outlook given the continued momentum we saw in the third quarter of 2026. The third quarter of 2026 marks the ninth straight quarter of double-digit revenue growth year over year. In fact, we've seen an acceleration of that trend with the last two consecutive quarters up over 100% due to the Category 1 CPT code, increased payer and reimbursement coverage, and a federal supply schedule. And our gross margin continues to expand while continuing to improve our operating leverage as we remain well positioned to deliver on our commitments, financial, clinical, and otherwise, to both our patients and investors.

17:32 So let's take a closer look at our financial highlights. Revenue in the third quarter of 26 was $2 million, up 150% compared to $811,000 in the third quarter of 2025, while revenue for the nine months ended September 30, 2026 of $5.6 million increased 114% compared to $2.6 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2025. It is worth mentioning that the third quarter of 2026 yet again marked the company's strongest quarterly revenue performance in our history. IB STEM unit deliveries increased 92% and 60% for the three and nine months ended September 30, 2026, respectively, compared to prior periods. Due to a continuance of what we saw in the first two quarters of 26, driven by the full reimbursement health insurance payer coverage we were awarded, in the fourth quarter of 26, and the IV Stem Category 1 CPT code that became effective at the beginning of this year.

18:36 In the third quarter of 2025, we were selling more units through our discounted financial assistance program than full reimbursement insurance coverage. That patient mix has since reversed itself in all three quarters of 2026, significantly in favor of higher margin, full reimbursement payers. Direct result of that payer mix shift, our IB STEM average selling price increased 35% from $775 per device in the third quarter of 2025 to $1,045 per device in the third quarter of 2026 and increased 32% from $773 in the nine months ended September 30, 2025 to $1,018 in the nine months ended September 30, 2026. Given the broad acceptance and operating momentum since the IV-STEM Category 1 CPT code became effective on January 1st, in addition to the recent additions of tumor medical policies that will expand access to an additional 44 million covered lives, we expect the positive mixed shift impact on revenue and gross margin to continue.

19:47 Gross margin increased 330 basis points

19:52 to 86.6% in the third quarter of 2026 compared to 83.3% in the third quarter of 2025. It increased 250 basis points to 86.3% during the nine months ended September 30, 2026 from 83.8% during the nine months ended September 30, 2025. The gross margin expansion is a direct result of the adoption of the Category 1 CPT code and increased payer coverage as our unit growth shifted from discounted financial assistance to full reimbursement payers. Although our current market access strategy is targeting all payers, our efforts to achieve more insurance coverage are particularly focused on the largest payers as evidenced by the two policies we were recently awarded with 44 million covered lives.

20:40 As a result, our expected success will continue to push our gross margins higher in future quarters due to the adoption trends

20:49 we've experienced in the first three quarters of 2026.

20:54 Total operating expenses in the third quarter of 2026 were $8.3 million, an increase of 200% compared to $2.8 million in the third quarter of 2025, excluding one-time non-recurring stock compensation charges totaling $4.3 million related to the issuance of restricted stock units with immediate vesting in exchange for canceled stock options in 2026. Total operating expenses in the third quarter of 2026 would have been $4 million, a 45% increase compared to $2.8 million in the third quarter of 2025. Total operating expenses for the nine months ended September 30, 2026 were $15.2 million, an 84% increase compared to $8.3 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2026.

21:45 Excluding one-time non-recurring stock compensation charges, totaling $4.6 million related to the issuance of restricted stock units with immediate vesting in exchange for canceled stock options in 2026 and a one-time non-recurring legal settlement charge totaling $631,000 in 2025. Total operating expenses for the nine months ended September 30, 2026 would have been $10.6 million, a 39% increase compared to $7.7 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2025. We measure, manage, and present our operating expenses along three functions, selling, research and development, and general and administrative, as these costs are leading indicators of our future success.

22:32 Selling expenses in the third quarter of 2026 were $1 million, a 31% increase compared to $763,000 in the third quarter of 2025. Selling expenses for the nine months ended September 30, 2026 were $2.7 million, a 59% increase compared to $1.7 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2025. The increases were due to commissions that are directly related to higher sales volume and additional sales reps and marketing personnel including recruiting costs and higher travel expenses to drive growth attributable to the IB STEM Category 1 CPT code and increase payer coverage as we go deeper into our existing accounts and expand into new ones.

23:19 Research and development expenses in the third quarter of 2026 were $289,000, an increase of 121% compared to $131,000 in the third quarter of 2025. Research and development expenses for the nine months ended September 30, 2026 were $645,000, an increase of 86% compared to $347,000 for the nine months ended September 30, 2025. The increases are reflective of the additional clinical research studies in 2026 as we continue to expand our IV STEM FDA indications, including into adults, partially offset by proceeds received in 2026 for devices used in these clinical research studies and non-recurring red device development costs in 2025.

24:09 General and administrative expenses of $7 million in the third quarter of 2026 increase 274% compared to $1.9 million in the third quarter of 25. Excluding one-time non-recurrent stock compensation charges of $4.3 million related to the issuance of restricted stock units in exchange for canceled stock options in 26, general and administrative expenses in the third quarter of 26 would have been $2.7 million, a 46% increase compared to $1.9 million in the third quarter of 25. That increase was due to higher advisory costs and additional headcount, including recruiting fees to educate and promote broader market access to payers and hospitals, incremental stock compensation expense from the third year of a three-year vesting plan, higher benefit costs, and higher estimated incentive plan costs due to current performance.

25:09 General and administrative expenses of $11.9 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2026 increased 91% compared to $6.3 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2025. Excluding one-time non-recurring stock compensation charges, totally $4.6 million related to the restricted stock units in exchange for canceled stock options here in 26 and a one-time non-recurring legal settlement of $631,000 in 25. General and administrative expenses for the nine months ended September 30, 2026 would have been $7.3 million, a 30% increase compared to $5.6 million for the nine months ended September 30, 25. The increase was due to additional headcount, including recruiting fees, market access, stock compensation, benefits, and incentive costs that I just mentioned.

26:02 Excluding those one-time non-recurring charges, we continue to demonstrate our ability to deliver operating expense leverage and achieve cash flow breakeven in the future as our revenue growth for the three and nine months ended September 30, 2026 was 150% and 114% respectively compared to the same periods in 2025 and continues to outpace our operating expense growth by approximately 3x. Our operating loss in the third quarter of 26 was $6.6 million, 213% higher compared to $2.1 million operating loss in the third quarter of 25, and our net loss in the third quarter of 26 of $6.5 million was 208% higher compared to $2.1 million in the third quarter of 25.

26:52 Excluding the one-time non-recurring $4.3 million stock compensation charges I already mentioned, our operating loss in the third quarter would have been $2.3 million, 9% higher compared to $2.1 million in the third quarter of 25, and our net loss in the third quarter of 26 would have been $2.2 million, only 6% higher compared to $2.1 million in the third quarter of 25. Our higher selling expenses were directly attributable to the higher volume, higher R&D costs as we continue to pursue additional IBCM FDA indications, and higher G&A costs due to the higher headcount, compensation, and market advisory spend which were partly offset by higher gross profit from our increased quarterly sales year over year.

27:39 Our operating loss for the nine months ended September 30, 26 was 10.4 million, 71% higher compared to 6.1 million for the nine months ended September 30, 25. And our net loss for the nine months ended September 30, 26 of 10.4 million was 71% higher compared to 6.1 million for the nine months ended September 30, 25. Excluding the one-time non-recurring $4.6 million stock compensation charge in 26 and the one-time non-recurring $631,000 legal settlement charge in 25 I previously mentioned, our operating loss for the nine months ended September 30, 26 would have been $5.8 million, 7% higher compared to 5.5 million for the nine months ended September 30, 25.

28:24 And our net loss for the nine months ended September 30, 26 would have been 5.8 million, 6% higher. compared to $5.5 million for the nine months ended September 30, 25. Our higher operating expenses from R&D, incremental headcount, compensation, and market access advisory costs were partly offset by higher gross profit from our increased medical device deliveries. Cash on hand as of September 30, 26 was $4.5 million. Our free cash outflow was $2.3 million and $4.5 million for the three and nine months ended September 30, 2026. Our 2026 year-to-date average quarterly burn rate of approximately $1.5 million is flat to 25, but higher than the first and second quarters of 2026 as the company recently hired key personnel that Brian mentioned, including recruiting costs, and engaged market access advisors to facilitate our growth, which is paying off given our 150% sales growth year over year for the quarter.

29:31 It is worth noting the decrease in the third quarter of our cash balance from $8.3 million as of June 30, 2026, which was due to the payment of employee withholding payroll taxes related to the net settlement of restricted stock units issued upon the exchange of canceled stock options. We remain optimistic regarding the liquidity profile of our ATM facility and raised nearly $1.7 million since quarter end. We also remain confident that we will achieve cash flow breakeven in the future, but again, that goal is dependent on the continuation of our growth trajectory and operating leverage to reduce our current cash burn as we grow the business. I mentioned last quarter that our cash burn in the second half of the year was going to increase as we invested in areas to accelerate growth.

30:20 and both materialized. We learned in the first quarter that our proof of concept with the Cat 1 code and the major payer policy coverage made decisions in the second quarter and executed in the third quarter. Our success in the third quarter proves the blueprint we laid out in the first half of the year. I therefore expect us to continue to make decisions in the fourth quarter and beyond to accelerate our growth. To accomplish that, our recent hirings of sales, marketing and clinical personnel additional research and development expenditures and market access advisors will increase our SG&A and cash burn in the short term. Sales personnel will grow our existing to new accounts. Marketing personnel and market access advisors will secure additional patient, hospital, and payer coverage. Clinical personnel will establish deeper connections with their customers to expand treatment. Research and development expenditures will allow us to secure additional FDA indications, including expansion into the adult population.

31:23 Short-term expenditures to secure future growth. And with that, let me turn the call back over to Brian.

31:33 Thank you, Tim. With that, operator will be happy to take any questions. At this time, we'll begin that question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star and then 1 on your touch-tone phones. If you are using a speakerphone, we do ask that you please pick up your handset prior to pressing the keys. To withdraw your questions, you may press star and two. Again, that is star and then one to ask a question. At this time, we'll pause momentarily to assemble the roster. Our first question today comes from Chase Knickerbocker from Craig Hallam. Please go ahead with your question.

32:13 Good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. Just a couple from me. So I mean, I guess just first, how should we be thinking about the impact from the Cigna and Aetna winds that occurred over the last couple of months? Have you seen any impact so far in the fourth quarter? Or kind of when do you think we should noticeably see the inflection in results? Thanks.

32:38 Yeah, so one of those payers is one I mentioned that we have not seen any impact because there was a miscommunication between in the policy and their prior authorization. They do use a third party for their prior authorizations. There was a misinterpretation of the policy and they were only doing prior authorizations for one. Number two, yes, we are seeing an impact and we can go back and, you know, as you know, we do prior authorizations for, you know, a certain number of maybe not quite half of our maybe half of our children's hospital accounts and those children's hospitals that we do prior authorizations for we have visibility to how many of each payer so we know exactly how many you know call it Aetna, Cigna, Anthem, UnitedHealthcare you name the payer small large Medicaid managed Medicaid we know so we know what that impact would have been to us this year and so yes we've already seen an impact from one of those payers and we expect to see that in Q4, but I also expect this other issue to be resolved this week. It may be already resolved. If so, that would be excellent because there's a material impact from both these payers, and I believe we'll start to see that in Q4, and especially in 2027. I believe there's a significant windfall there because of these two payers, not to mention the peer...

34:07 and other payers and how that could be recognized. But yes, we'll see that in Q4 a little bit, but certainly in Q1, especially if this one issue is resolved as I expect it is.

34:20 And then maybe just to dovetail on that, how have these two most recent wins impacted your conversations with other large national payers? Have you seen any change as far as the kind of momentum in those conversations?

34:37 The larger the payer, the closer they keep it to their vest. So I wouldn't tell you there's any material change, but I wouldn't tell you there's not either. I think that these conversations are oftentimes one-sided. Sometimes you get some clues, sometimes you don't. So I don't think it's like what I always say, you can't unsee it. And I think that there is without question material influence from these two payers on Not just large payers, but especially mid payers, small payers around the country. I don't see any way around that.

35:13 Helpful. I'm sorry if I missed the specific details here, but can you just mention where you expect to be from a rep number perspective by the end of the year? And I understand these ads are preferential to states that already have good coverage. Can you maybe just kind of share with us your expectations around time to contribution to growth for these new reps and then time to profitability if you would as well?

35:38 Yeah, we're not going to talk about profitability today. I think that's a first half of 27. I think we have a much clearer picture, especially with these new payers. But we will talk about the reps that are in place right now. So just on the sales side, by the end of the year, we expect to have 10 or 11 salespeople in place. That does not include the senior MSL and the strategic market director. So then you're talking about 12 or 13. That also does not include marketing or market access. 11 to 13, and then if you add marketing, it's 16. But just direct sales, you're talking about 10 or 11. And I would, you know, senior MSL and a strategic market access director, you can put those in a category you'd like. So you're talking more around 12 or 13 by year end.

36:24 Got it. And I just meant profitability on the specific rep basis. Brian, sorry if there's any questions there.

36:31 No, sorry. Well, I think from a from a materiality standpoint, I think that we're going to see, I think within 90 days or so, we should have a rep. I'm going to use the term January 1st. If they start January 1st, I think we should see in three to four months, I think we should see their effect in place.

36:53 Helpful. And then just last for me, Medicaid's a pretty important payer for you guys. Can you just give us an update kind of where you are at the various state Medicades? and, you know, what's left to do from your side to kind of further that build out?

37:10 Yeah, well, two things. I'd have to ask Misty and Eric, but I believe we have... and many others. We're not going to write policy as a general rule. A lot of states aren't going to write policy on this CPT code. But what we do see is we now have 27 states with it on the fee schedule, and we're seeing great success with the EPSDT program, which is the federal mandate, and you can look that up if the investors would like to. But that is material from an equality and equity standpoint. Last year, I think I've talked about the fact that at children's hospitals, we do prior authorizations There are, you know, roughly 19 or 20% of the patients that came to us for prior offer were Medicaid patients. And I don't, I would assume that extrapolates out to other children's hospitals. So it's not, you know, it's not by any means half of our business or half of the opportunity, but it is material, 20% is material, first of all. And second of all, from an equity standpoint and starting a program at many children's hospitals, that needs to be in place.

38:17 So the next question is how do we get their remaining 23, and I think DC and Puerto Rico are in there, so call it 52. How do we gain their last 25? And I'll tell you, it's just hand-to-hand combat. There's no rhyme or reason why they have or have not added this. It's just a matter of getting to the state Medicaid director or the state Medicaid personnel with the children's and that's really the process we're in right now. And I'll circle back to another one of your questions, Chase. I think the biggest item I've noticed in the last three to six months is we have specifically one or two reps that have had the ability that don't have a wide geographic range from a territory standpoint and we have one or two that are really in their territory and the visibility and the increase in revenue where there's insurance policy coverage and we're able to get to those children's hospitals on a weekly, biweekly basis has been more than significant. And I'm expecting with the increase in W-2 salespeople in their territories where they're within a couple hour driving distance of their accounts to see a real change in 2021.

39:39 which was on purpose because we didn't have broad insurance coverage and it wouldn't have made sense to build out that commercial force which we've discussed at NAWSI. So I hope that's helpful.

39:49 It is. Congrats on the progress. Thanks. Our next question comes from Renze Leitz from Microcap. Please go ahead with your question.

40:01 Hi. I was wondering about the 52 states and territories. How long do you see that taking to get to, say, 90% of those getting on their Medicaid fee structure?

40:16 I'd like to believe, and look, this is, it's an educated guess based on progress since we've been going, since we've been more direct. I'd like to believe by spring of 2027, we're in the 90% range. I think it could be as late as July 1st. I think it could be as early as in Q1. I think somewhere in there is more likely.

40:39 Excellent. I also wanted to ask about the 32 to 38 percent, the increase in approval, pre-approval rates, maybe misquoting that. Can you talk a little bit more about that and what impact it has on the business?

40:59 Yeah, so as you know, we've gained two significant payers in the last 45 days. I mentioned that one of those has not been able to give us approvals, prior authorizations because of the internal miscommunication, which is, I believe, fixed or will be fixed this week. So to go from 32% on a year-to-date basis to 38% on a year-to-date basis in 30 days, means that that 30-day window had to be materially higher than 38% to bring that average up. So you're starting to see the comprehensive nature of more, or I should say, of comprehensive coverage in certain areas. So look, the number speaks for itself. We're pleased, and now we'll see what this second payer does as we get this issue resolved. And I expect it to be better and continue to improve.

41:51 We need to get that number ultimately to double where it is today as soon as possible. And we believe we have the right payers and having the right conversations to get us there. And then again, Lindsay, those are just the children's hospitals that we do prior authorizations for, but you'd like to believe that that extrapolation is parallel to the market, especially in areas where we have good insurance policy coverage. And I purposely, for you and Sergio's and all investors' purpose, started to release some information on the metrics around What states have how much insurance policy coverage? And you start to understand, although we have some good payers, there's still a significant number of payers. Most states that are not, don't have a strong percentage of coverage, but we're making significant progress. And that's why we started to release those KPIs.

42:43 I think the material, that's information an investor could find on their own if they really wanted to. But we're trying to make this a little easier for everybody.

42:52 Thank you. One additional, last additional question from me, and that is when you get, say, a Cigna, are there any hospitals that are able to go back for, say, the last 90 days where you got denials because, hey, coverage wasn't available yet, so now you can kind of go back through past history and see which patients might benefit from the coverage?

43:17 Absolutely. You have a patient still interested, absolutely, and you can imagine we've been all over that. Thank you. And with that, ladies and gentlemen, we'll be ending today's question and answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over to Brian for closing remarks.

43:38 I appreciate everyone's time. I'm always available, as you all know, for individual calls and meetings. Happy to discuss the business in more detail. But I believe Tim and I delivered the most important aspects today and look forward to the coming weeks and months. And everyone have a nice holiday season, and we'll talk soon. Thank you. And with that, we'll conclude today's conference call and presentation. We thank you for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.

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