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34:37 do show, actually I believe, do show what it needed to show. So now the idea with the the more bigger survey or the more regional survey is to be able to take the the fine detail we've gathered from the precise survey and expanding that at a much greater depth thus with a much greater level of confidence because we can use the very high confidence data in the core of the deposit to expand our way both laterally and at depth following the guidance that the bigger general survey is going to get us.
35:23 So that's very very interesting and we're very excited about that. We're yet to receive any data for the regional survey. It's being gathered now so and that's the reason we can't drill right now in this specific area. We need to stay out of the covered area here. So speaking about all this, leading to what did we learn actually from Fleet Survey, I'll just spin things around in 3D a bit here to show just visually what that product is looking like on a visual standpoint. So what I did do for helping us out, understanding what the heck we're looking at here, is subdividing the data into very, very contrasting colors, because as a reminder, what we're looking here is velocities, or what we're looking at are velocities, so it's speed in meters per second at which the waves are traveling through the different rock masses. So in very hot colors are those rocks where the velocity is very, very high.
36:53 And above 4000 here, so whatever is purple to the very dark purple in here, are those rocks that we are looking for. Those typically in that kind of range of velocity, those would be ultramafic rocks and that's exactly what we're looking for, because ultramafic rocks have the potential to be hosting those nickel-rich sulfide lenses. So now, as I was mentioning, there is a certain level of confidence in that data set. So what we've been advised to do is to not necessarily consider the deep deep portion of the model but rather looking at somewhere in the middle is a lot more robust in terms of what we see there.
37:56 So what I'll do right now is I'll just cut a section through about the middle or the upper first tier of the deposit. Tier of the deposit here. So essentially when we look from underneath what we see is the the deepest kind of pretty Certain Interpretation that we can get there. So what does it mean for us? So I'll just Change this a bit and we'll have a look at a 50 meter slice of what we've interpreted here. So what we can very clearly see is that, well, first of all, there are very very sharp contrasts that we can see in the velocities.
39:06 So blue against purple, as a reminder, is something that we look for. So we need to find velocity contrast to find the contact, literally, between ultramafic rocks and the rest of the country rocks that we have there. So what we can see is a few things actually and I'll try to make this very simple as much as I can but okay so here we are this is the NISQ main lens and generally speaking from the beginning of the project we are looking at that NISQ main lands being somewhat tabular and trending into a north-north-northeast direction.
40:05 So what the intent was with hole number 10, 8 and 9 that we have previously seen, which are to the east of the main lens, while we're essentially targeting this area here. So the continuity of that sharp contrast between very low velocity rocks and very high velocity rocks. That's where the ultramafic body lies in here and thus mineralization. So if we didn't have the fleet technology or the fleet survey going, our idea was to go that way.
40:53 So that was the initial idea. And why were we going that way? It's essentially because when we look at the overall picture here, we thought and we still think that something is going on and shoots off in that direction and literally almost following the boundary limit that we our property boundary that we have here up to a point that to the very far east Last year we've presented some results in this area that we've called the Wildcat, in the sense that it's a really Wildcat target area and that was solely based on geophysics and things like that so it was a like a hot ball we decided to drill this regardless and came up with very interesting PGE rich intercept.
42:04 What are PGEs? Platinum, Palladium and things like that. That's really, really interesting because those PGEs can be a very significant byproduct in such a Nickel environment. Environment. So the idea was then to, okay, we kind of know that something cool is happening in this part of the world, so we should probably keep going our way and drill up to where on our ground obviously but following that known trend that we knew which we thought at the time was the pure and simple kind of extension with a little bend here but the extension of the known main NISQ trend over here.
43:09 So now from the the fleet survey we can confirm that the actual trend that we had in mind was there is there so you can see that very sharp contrast in here that we have in the in the survey data suggesting that effectively there is a structure or a trend or a break of some sort that is going towards that wildcat area that is way over here. So we were very very pleased to see that but at the same time we came up with other observations that are very, very intriguing.
44:00 So I'll draw them in red here and if we're looking at velocity contrast one of the things that struck me when I first saw the initial data here was that we can actually somehow design another kind of trend where velocity contrast is very high but that trend kind of goes off trend as compared to the the blue initial trend that we had. So let's call this trend number 2 while this one here is trend number 1 going towards Wildcat. So how can we explain then that the ultramafic rocks can be doubled up?
44:48 Well there are several scenarios that are envisaged right now and I'm still in discussion with the GeoVector team to try to understanding this, but in the different scenarios we have, perhaps it could be some sort of a fold keel that is bending the whole thing over, and Maybe we are on one side of that fold, on 1 limb to the west and on the other limb to the east. That could be an option. Another option could be to faulting, post-mineralization faulting in the picture.
45:39 And to be honest at this point I'm more along that as a good scenario and will be testing both ideas anyway. But the default approach seems to be very elegant in the sense that when we look at the little irregularities that we've modeled when we modeled the the main Landsat NISQ, what we could see is several little breaks actually running subparallel 1 to the other, and I'm trying to design this the best I can here, with another trend going a little off-trend like this.
46:29 Somewhere it's seeable, we can see it, some other times it's more difficult, but then when we compare what we knew from the structural analysis done in the past, by me essentially, to the results that we got from Fleet, it's pretty intriguing and amazing that we can recognize the same kind of orientations that we had, oops, sorry, not that one, the same orientation that we had kind of seen in the past using a different approach, which is pure and simple structural data and designing a fault system in this area. So that's very, very intriguing and it led us to the interpretation that perhaps all of them faults are given a dextral apparent motion on in surface and that would coincide really well with the slight offsets that we were seeing in the NISQ main lens but the difference now would be that what we are intersecting here perhaps is a little bit of a major fault that is perhaps moving things and shifting things a lot more
47:59 than what we had seen before. And thus it's quite possible that that number 2 trend that we've identified very recently with that fleet survey that here is very very intriguing in the sense that it has become an option now to interpret that first trend here to be a controlling trend, yes. But perhaps it's a structural trend that is more tied with PGE mineralization that we had in the far, far east Wildcat area.
48:46 If my hypothesis is good, then perhaps by drilling this area here, we can maybe discover another something or the extension, so to speak, of what the NISQ main lens is. In a nutshell, what I'm thinking right now is there is some evidence supporting the fact that if the NISQ main mineralization is tied up with that ultramafic contact or unit that we have here, highlighted by that green and blue line, then it is quite possible that that old contact has been shifted towards the east, south of where we were anticipating the first trend to be. And then it would become a another brand new area to add in the in the mixture here and that would be a fantastic news for us so overall the that partial data set we see in here has not changed drastically with the final complete combined survey, which I'll have available to present
50:17 next time. But the idea here is that we can now interpret better and that's what we're currently doing actually. We are in the process to interpreting better what's going on in the NISQ portion, having the fleet survey available now in combination with brand new geophysics and stuff like that that we have on surface as well. That combined to some downhole geophysics that we've recently completed as well. So we're in the process of merging all of them data sources together to as precisely as we can and as good as we can interpret what really is going on there and testing ideas is is probably what's driving us right now we're very very excited about those new trends actually that literally we didn't have a clue about up until recently.
51:30 So, stay tuned, I guess, for the next run of drilling. So we're getting close to the end of the, because I think we got an hour, if I'm Correct, Kyle. There's a few questions I see in the chat box. Maybe what we should do is, I mean, I think that was a pretty great presentation, Ken, in terms of helping people understand sort of what we're doing, what we're seeing, how we're using technology to sort of move us forward and give us an edge and to see this thing for what it truly could be. The good news I say to people when I'm out there pitching the investment, I'm saying, you know, we're trading at such a crazy discount to what we've already discovered.
52:22 All this stuff is just a bonus, man. You're not paying for it. It's crazy. But I mean, at some point in time, you know, when we get our 43-101 out there and get all this together, I suspect there'll be a correction and the market will realize, you know, how amazing this project is. But in the interim, it's pretty free. So just touching on some of the questions that are in the commentary section. Somebody asked, what was the sentiment at Beaver Creek, especially for Nickel Juniors? Beaver Creek generally was a precious metal conference. There was only a handful of critical metal stocks and we were the only nickel junior there.
53:15 I guess Canada Nickel was there, so they're a different animal, a little bit bigger. And then there was the Tanzanian project that's on the New York Stock Exchange, again, much bigger, much more advanced project. So it'd be hard to sort of give you any guideline there. We did have great reception and I mean, our story is so solid in terms of the value proposition, what we've done, how we're going at things, how we're executing. This is not a fluffy story at all. I mean, the meat is very much evidence for people to see. You know, we'll have the new 43-101, you know, we're obviously trying to incorporate as much of the new resource we can to get the biggest number we can out there. And you can see it's gonna, in my mind, gonna keep on growing because we haven't struck the end of the NISP mean yet.
54:13 Looks like it's still open to the south and east in a big way from what we can see. And we'll keep on stepping these things out. And the good news is from a resource perspective, all these step outs, you were taking some big step outs, so you're adding a ton of resource. So that's great. So I would say the sentiment was good for power nickel. You know, I think the sentiment on nickel overall is muted because nickel has, you know, somewhat been depressed by the Chinese recession. Generally speaking, nickel is driven by stainless steel. It's 70% of the market right now. And stainless steel is about construction and generally in the Southeast Asia and India and China where people are moving from villages into, you know, from agrarian society into villages and cities and towns.
55:10 And the whole driver is they're buying pots and pans, fridges and stoves, that's stainless steel. You know, so that has grown at 6% compound annual growth rate for a number of years, but obviously the last year that slowed down. And so in China, there's a bit of an oversupply of stainless. And so that softened the overall nickel market. But you know, if you look at any of the forecasts for nickel, obviously, there's 60 kilograms of nickel in the average EV that uses nickel, one of the nickel batteries. So if you're going from, as you're adding from 10 million cars to 20 million cars, 30 million, so forth, they're expecting that nickel right now for EVs is about 10% of demand for overall nickel. And they're saying that within 3 or 4 years, that'll be 30%, and then within a couple years, 50%.
56:07 I don't know that we'll ever get there, just because I don't think we'll ever find that much nickel. But that nickel long-term looks fantastic. And Nickel is going to have its day. I think that Nickel juniors are a ridiculous buy across the board. And within that subset, I would say that no question that we're the best asymmetric bet in my view. Of course, I'm long and therefore recommend, so I'll put that out there. Nobody's gonna buy more stock in this deal than me. So it is what it is, but yeah, so that's the comment on the Nickel Juniors. Some of the other question, Somebody says, when you say regional data that you will get from ANT, how big an area does that include? So the one we're doing now is probably going to be about, I think it's about almost 2 square kilometers or so, something in that range, or 1 by 2 or something, Ken? Is that what your feeling is? Yeah, yeah, I'll just very, very quickly highlight here on screen what we've done.
57:15 Hold on, I need to do this. Okay, sorry about the little delay. New disk. So, okay, so that's one of the 4 survey that we've done for the main NISQ and when I say one of the 4 is because the all of the others are kind of overlapping in such way that we can reread the same data increasing the level of confidence and precision on the interpretation. So we've done that. We are currently interpreting this, well fleet is, not us, I haven't seen the data yet for that and the regional and I'll change color here what we call regional is to get a better depth view So essentially what we're covering here is more of an area, say like this, if my memory is correct.
58:24 I may be wrong, but the exact location... I think it goes a little deeper and a little wider, but generally speaking... Yeah, Generally speaking, the idea is to enlarge laterally, in both North and South direction, the distribution of those geodes. The spacing is a lot larger because we still have those 40 geodes to play with so that number isn't changing but because the area covered and the spacing is larger than in a long view let's say a long view like this, what we're anticipating is essentially something like that. So what I did mention earlier is, geez, I need to have slides pre-made.
59:23 So with the detailed survey, we're reaching a maximum depth of that, which is about 200 meters but we need to cut that say a little bit and in the center it's going to be a little bit more precise so we're essentially covering say a real depth of about there just relatively speaking and then with the regional the way the geodes are distributed what we will be achieving is to reaching some sort of a depth down to here But the resolution here will be a lot more blurry as compared to the upper part.
1:00:10 But what we know and what we will do is even if that contact is blurry and this one as well is blurry, and whatever, because we have precise knowledge of what's coming up from surface, we will be able to design appropriately the same contact shooting out at depth with the regional survey. So it's like if having a not so detailed big map and then you zoom in into a more detailed map and then more detailed map can approach there. Okay, a couple more questions just before we go because I think we got to wrap it up in a few minutes here.
1:00:58 So Adrian asks, How would you describe the advantage of Ant? Does it reduce overall exploration costs? Does it speed up knowledge discovery? Both or something else? So, you know, we would, at this point, you know, we're still verifying this. We're still obviously, you know, as we're drilling the holes and confirming that the leads that were given by Ant are good. That's obviously confirmation that the thing's working. So I'd say so far, we're pretty thrilled with it overall. And we would think it would reduce overall expiration costs because you're gonna have less dry holes. And the other thing it does do definitely, it does speed up the, so we're able to take the risk of this, because that step out hole was probably 150,000 bucks.
1:01:44 So you don't throw 150 grand around unless you're pretty convicted there's gonna be something good out of it. So that helps you as well, I think, in terms of taking the expiration steps sooner than you might have otherwise done. Question from D. Chipman. Are you ready to delay the 43-101? It's gonna be delayed a little bit from, we thought we'd have it out in sort of early October, mid-October, but now we're thinking like, maybe it's gonna be early November, but probably not much beyond that. We're going to definitely try and get it out then. So we'll try and incorporate some of the holes we've done. We won't incorporate all of them. But you know, because the plan is to keep on drilling here for some time and they'll obviously have to be more updates to the 4.3.1 as we go.
1:02:41 And Terry if I may, within 6 seconds, advantage of Ant On screen is a typical tilt geophysic image, and then what we can see highlighted by those magenta lines are power lines from the nearby Namaska substation. So you can see that very... Any type of electromagnetic geophysics will get screwed by those high power lines that are crossing our property, the Ant technology is not impacted by that. So that's another advantage of combining the NT with other technologies as well. And That's the one observation we would make is that no technology is like the end all be all. They all need to be, but this is a very, I think a very valuable, a new addition to the tool shed. You know, and when you put them together with the IP and gravity and the downhole EM, the airborne EM, you really start to get a much clearer picture much quicker.
1:03:55 And I think in exploration, that whole carpentry thing of measure twice and cut once, it's sort of like do the brain work. Do what Ken is doing, what the GeoVector guys are doing. Use all these technologies, get all the thoughts together and work that out really aggressively and debate and discussion as to how it could impact the drilling concepts and then go and drill. You know what I mean? Because drilling is expensive. And of course, ultimately you're going to miss. We've been hitting on, I guess we've probably hit between 50 and 60% of our holes have been successful holes, i.e. You've hit mineralization. That's ridiculous. You know, so that's just a tremendous number. I've never had that happen before in my life.
1:04:42 So, And you're never gonna hit 100 because you wouldn't be pushing the envelope enough because you're basically trying to prove you got the biggest ore body possible. So you gotta push the envelope, but and you gotta take shots. But obviously with these technologies, we can take the shots sooner on the more obvious ones and hopefully deliver the goods in terms of resources, which ultimately impacts, hopefully, share valuations and that's how you create value for shareholders. So, I don't know, Kyle, was there a 1 hour limit on this? If you are all free, I'm free for another 30 minutes feel free But I appreciate you guys going the whole time really your call the audience if they have any more questions But I believe you answered all of them.
1:05:33 Yeah, I think we've got most of them done. But Ken, any final thoughts on the PGM hole? Just because we talked about it, you and I, of course, know the PGM hole. It was a spectacular hole, but maybe some of the audience doesn't know and maybe it's a little refresher on where that was and if we have some extra 5 minutes here, we should go through that. Oh yeah, sure, absolutely. So the story behind that PGE hole is initially, when we first started off with the project, It was very, very clear that the lens of mineralization is associated very clearly with some electromagnetic signature or geophysics signature that we could see on surface. That was very, very obvious. And in the past, they had also tested that same idea.
1:06:39 All of them holes that we have to the west here, are historical holes that were showing little sniffs of nickel, but not as great as the main pod in here. So now when you look at the visual on this, it's very obvious, I'd say, that if you look at shooting across the power line here, shooting where that trend is going, that at one point you end up with a bifurcation here, like a Y shape in this area. And our interpretation always been because the intensity of the signature and other good reasons, I guess, geologically speaking, We always thought that the main trend was following this kind of trend and then all of a sudden would go back to its original trend here.
1:07:43 Can we show where that hole was? It's right there. So you see the 2 little lines there? Oh, yeah. OK. OK. The VG intercept is this one in here. So we had the impression that the whole thing was kind of bending and if I if you look at this this anomaly here linear anomaly and this one below and you want to keep the same distance in between then naturally our expectation was this guy here is probably equivalent to what we have here. So it became very very obvious to us to follow actually that magnetic anomaly and then be drilling in this part of the world where the orientation of that ultramafic band, well what we had interpreted at the time as an ultramafic band, was at approximately the same orientation of the NISQ main, then we thought that is a really good and nice wildcat target. So Terry accepted the idea And that's a good thing because we drilled there and ended up with Discovering a little bit of nickel, but the most interesting part was the PGE it
1:09:15 which fabulous intercepts I can't recall the exact numbers but very very impressive. Yeah 7.75 meters of basically 1 ounce is a PGE you know I rarely had seen that before. Yeah that's a bonanza hole for sure. It is, it is. And then, so we'll keep working on this area, that's the reason why we did the fleet or the ANT survey in this part of the world as well. That is to help us out understanding better the real geometry of this in 3D, so to speak, what's the dip of that because we have very very limited information and the the fleet survey in this part of the world was designed also to be as much as we could be testing this little anomaly that we have here that we're uncertain what it is and also to be testing another identified trend from the GeoVector crew which is following somehow that little anomaly here and is interpreted to shoot in somewhere in this area, in that little wedge of our property. So the fleet survey has been designed here to cover that.
1:10:48 So in the coming weeks, we should be able to better understand and better interpret what's going on there. And I'm totally convinced that this would be a target generating session as well to follow up on that really nice hit that we had. Yeah, yeah, okay. Ken, the other question I had that I was wondering is just east of the main or west of the main thing, We had that nice hit on the EM. And we've, you know, we've, and I guess the regional program will cover that again, right? Absolutely. Yeah. What are your thoughts on that area? Well, obviously the western part, when initially I had looked at it, it's a little bit disappointing in the sense that the very few holes that we have do not show necessarily very very exciting stuff going on.
1:11:53 Now the one thing we did learn though is when we look at the the long view and what's going on at depth, it's not necessarily always good mineralization near surface. There also seem to be other trends that are somehow in a secondary way perhaps controlling mineralization. And as you can see towards the west of the deposit, even on surface, it was not that nice looking. But a couple of tens of meters below, that's where we get really nice grade Starting to show up.
1:12:40 So one of the first idea we had was to take that plunge and going up word so in this area but from the the results we have from the historical programs and you can see there's quite a bit of a number of holes in this area already without necessarily too too much exciting things happening. So what the intention is with the regional survey, the fleet survey as well, is to better understand what's happening in here. As you can see we have no information but geophysics, EMs and stuff like that, triggering nice targets still in this area. So soon, I guess The intention overall is to, from the scale we see on screen, be capable of designing a very robust lithostructural model that will include all rock types, all dikes that we see, pegmatites in particular that could contain Lithium. Who knows?
1:13:57 We'll investigate that. But those dikes and faults and things like that, we definitely need and will be modeling this in 3D to support the upcoming MRE. That MRE will be very geologically as robust as we can. As robust as we can. So. The Constantine had a question on, are you, hi, are you, after all of this new official and more confident than this project can be much bigger than a 10 million ton nickel resource. And, you know, when I'm out talking about the project, I definitely think, you know, I compare this, the ultrametric deposits in Canada that were have been sizable would be Lynn Lake, which is 22 million tons and Voices Bay, which is plus 50.
1:14:56 And I fully believe that we'll end up somewhat north of Lynn Lake and towards Voices Bay. And who knows, this thing has got a ton of potential, as you can see, as Ken sort of walked you through it. Now, it's just at this point, we're arm waving because we don't have enough drill holes to say that. But I mean, every nickel sulfide mine in the history of the world was multiple pod So that means that there's been you know, you know, you know multiple pods contributed to the overall resource. Right now, you know, we're, we're have this one giant pod called NISC main, and it's, you know, 8, 10 million tons, who knows what it will be when we get the 40s, but it looks like it's still got tons of growth potential to grow that even beyond that and that's the one that's 1 pot So is this going to be the only?
1:15:54 Pod that we discover here doesn't look likely that that's the case looks like there's going to be multiple pods and You know, you know 1 or 2 to the northeast. Maybe there's going to be 1 to the west. And then it's like, is it all just at surface in the surface 300 meter range or is there something deeper? So then that's when you can get sort of like carried away about the what is, but that's why mining is such a crazy business and such a, you can, you know, go from, you know, you're just like pennies 1 day, and then all of a sudden you start to hit these things and your dollars, multiple dollars in short order. That's the magic of it. And in this case, you know, this does look like it could be a lot bigger than 10 million tons, but obviously we have our work out in front of us and yeah, but we're I think the geological team led by Canon the Geo vector crew are doing a great job of pulling the science together and and and given the drill God's a chance to go to work and we'll continue to put our money in the ground and get the holes open as quickly as we can as we're executing. So Ken, I don't know, just if you have any further thoughts and then we'll wrap this up.
1:17:22 I don't know. No, I think it's pretty much, it's a pretty good overview of where we're at. Next time I can maybe not make a promise, but next time for sure what I'd like to be presenting if I have the opportunity is what our final interpretation is what our final interpretation is in terms of structural geology that is superimposed on the deposit and what technically should be happening here is within the coming days or coming weeks the GeoVector team and myself will sit down take our time to thoroughly analyze all of the new data that we've gathered in a very, very short time.
1:18:20 We have tons of new information to work with now. And we'll just take time to making sure that we fully digest all of it and that we can come up with the best interpretation as possible. After that, I'm hoping that with such a structural framework, it will end up with 2 things. The first being that we can ourselves better understand what's going on and therefore better spend that money on the ground by better drilling that deposit based on very robust geology.
1:19:08 Secondly, I do believe that focusing on that will also end up with us delivering a really very robust 43-101 in the coming weeks, months from now. So it's all good. Very excited about what's happening now. Yes, it was good. I think it was an interesting, good engagement from the community out there. Mineral resource estimate, ORIC is what MRE stands for, just as a last question. Going forward, one of the things we're going to do as we get wrapped up with the fleet on NISQ, and fleet will always, it's a technology that's iterative, so as we get more drill-a-hole information, We correlate that to the data, reprocess it, we get better intelligence. That's the wonder about the whole thing is that it's very much an interactive model that keeps on getting better as you get more intelligence, more data sets. So we'll keep on doing that. But one of the things we hope to do, and I've talked to the fleet guys about this, is we'll have a separate session with, we'll bring some of the fleet guys on because they're anxious to do this too.
1:20:29 You know, we'll get in and we'll have like a just a fleet session and talk about what we've learned from fleet and how we're using it. And I think the audience might get a kick out of that. I'm sure it'll be a revelation to us all. So, But that'll probably be in sort of mid-October, I'm thinking. So when we get all that stuff together, but that'll be another good technical session to have and help everyone understand what we're working with here on the beast that is NISQ. So, all right, everyone, thanks for coming today. And we'll turn it back over to you, Kyle. I think we're ready to kick off. No, I'm just gonna thank you gentlemen for the engaging presentation and conversation.
1:21:17 Just a reminder, if you tuned in late, that there will be a recording available probably within the day so keep an eye on that. But other than that, gentlemen, thank you