Auna (NYSE:AUNA) Q1 2026 Earnings Call

0:00 Good morning, and welcome to Auna's First Quarter twenty twenty six Earnings Conference Call. My name is Rob, and I will be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. And please note that this call is being recorded. There will be an opportunity for you to ask questions at the end of today's presentation. Now I would like to turn the call over to Ana Maria Mora, Head of Investor Relations. Ma'am, please go ahead. Thank you, operator. Hello, everyone, and welcome to Auna's conference call to review our first quarter results. Please note that there is a webcast presentation to accompany the discussion during this call. If you need a copy of the presentation, please go to our Investor Relations website or contact Auna's Investor Relations team.

0:47 Please note that when we discuss variances, we will be doing so on a year over year basis and in effect neutral or local currency terms with regard to Mexico and Colombia unless we note otherwise. Let's move to Slide two. In addition to reporting unaudited financial results in accordance with International Financial Reporting Standards, we will discuss certain non IFRS financial measures and operating metrics, including foreign exchange neutral calculations. Investors should carefully read the definitions of these measures, the metrics and reconciliations included in our earnings press release published yesterday after market close to ensure that they understand them. Non IFRS financial measures and operating metrics should not be considered in isolation as a substitute for or superior to IFRS financial measures and are provided as supplemental information only.

1:47 Before we begin our remarks, please also note that certain statements made during the course of today's discussion may constitute forward looking statements, which are based on management's current expectations and beliefs and which are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to materially differ, including factors that may be beyond the company's control. This includes, but are not limited to, our target leverage ratio, suppliers and information systems in Mexico, the results of the key initiatives we are implementing in Mexico, Colombia and Peru, the expected capacity and market of Torrejka was built, the execution of our strategic plan including the recovery of our growth level and the rollout of the Auna way in Mexico, our plant investments, our expected revenue growth and adjusted EBITDA growth, our revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance and the creation of further growth and sustainable value for all stakeholders.

2:53 For a description of risks that may impact our forward looking statements, please refer to our Form 20 F filing with the U. S. Securities and Exchange Commission and our earnings press release. Slide three, please. On today's call, we have Soussos Amora, our Executive Chairman and President Chisel Remy, our Chief Financial Officer and Executive Vice President and Lorenzo Massar, our Executive Vice President of Strategy and Equity Capital Markets. They will discuss Auna's consolidated and segment financial and operating results for the first quarter as well as provide an update on our various strategic growth initiatives. After that, we will open the call for your questions. Tusa, please go ahead.

3:40 Thanks, Amy. Let's move to Slide four please. We got off to a good start in 2026, building commercial momentum across our regional healthcare platform, accelerating growth and generating strong cash flows. We have stabilized and restored growth in Auna Mexico's hospital platform. We have strengthened Auna Colombia's hospital platform by expanding our unique risk sharing businesses and deepening our relationships with the country's largest and best capitalized payers. We continue to grow revenues from Auna Peru's hospital platform by further expanding our higher complexity services and by growing plan memberships.

4:27 Our path forward is clear, simplify our model, do more of what we do best and extend the reach of Villalono Way. Now turning to our financial results, our top line grew 10% FXM in the first quarter with revenues increasing across all segments. However, due to two extraordinary items, which we will detail later in the presentation, adjusted EBITDA decreased 5%, FXM, and margin contracted by 2.9 percentage points. Nonetheless, we are tracking well against our 2026 guidance. In Mexico, we delivered higher service volumes and utilization levels increased.

5:17 More importantly, utilization grew in high complexity services, particularly in surgeries and oncology. Our operations in Mexico have delivered as planned, 19% quarter over quarter increase in adjusted EBITDA. The Peru segment of our integrated platform performed well, maintaining its growth momentum during the quarter despite adjustments related to payer reconciliations that impacted revenue and therefore profitability. Revenues increased 9%, supported by strong volume growth in healthcare services, including high complexity services, while Onco Salud continued to add new plan members through growing B2B sales.

6:09 In Colombia, we have largely put the intervened payers behind us. Thanks to risk sharing businesses, we've established a new payer relationships. These unique agreements have consistently produced more predictable top line and cash flow growth. Turning briefly to our balance sheet. Our leverage ratio was 3.7 times. Our cash position increased 22% to PEN409 million, with free cash flow increasing 2.6 times versus the comparable period last year, an important indicator of our ability to optimize our operations for effective cash management across our regional platform.

6:57 Let's turn to Slide five. Growing volumes and higher levels of capacity utilization in healthcare combined with increased plan memberships helped drive the quarter strong top line growth and cash flow. As you can see in the bottom left of this slide, total utilization increased 1.4 percentage points to 66%. However, our focus is on increasing utilization in higher margin, high complexity services rather than on bed occupancy alone. In Peru, where our business is vertically integrated, healthcare plan memberships grew 6%, while oncology plans grew 3%.

7:49 Furthermore, the oncology MLR was below 50% within its expected range. The run rate profitability of our regional platform also improved significantly during the quarter. Again, adjusted EBITDA was down 5% FXN, primarily due to revenue adjustments and certain payroll increases. Let's now move to Slide seven for a closer look at the performance of each segment of our platform, starting with Mexico. Our Mexico operations recovered strongly during the quarter with revenue increasing 8%. This resulted from our new status in preferred provider tiers with two major payers and doctors' hospital.

8:39 The substantially improved economics of our new Isilion contract, expanded B2B service packages and additional growth in the out of pocket segment. This also proves a 19% quarter over quarter increase in adjusted EBITDA and a 3.5 percentage point increase in margin. On a year over year basis, EBITDA increased 23% year over year. Please turn to Slide eight. Revenue growth in Peru was 9% and was impacted by revenue adjustments related to higher revenue reconciliation penalties implemented by payers in the market. Revenues from healthcare services grew 7%, reflecting the advantages of our growing scale, commercial initiatives drove most of the volume and utilization increases.

9:36 On the insurance side, Banco Salud revenues grew 12%, driven both by annual price increases and growth in B2B plan memberships, including the 20,000 employees of the new group policy for the nation's judiciary that we were awarded. We see a growing opportunity for commercial initiatives to increase our share of the B2B segment of Peru's insurance market. First quarter adjusted EBITDA decreased 3% with margin contracting by 2.3 percentage points impacted by the aforementioned revenue adjustments as well as a delay in rebate recognition and an increase in doctor compensation.

10:23 Excluding the revenue adjustments, Peru's adjusted EBITDA would have increased 7%. Let's move to Colombia on Slide nine. Our revenue growth in Colombia accelerated, growing 13% in the first quarter as we further reduced our reliance on intervening payers and increased the proportion of risk sharing agreements with payers, which rose six percentage points to 21% of Colombia's total revenue. It is important to note that revenues from intervened payers fell five percentage points year over year from 19% to 14%. At the same time, revenues from new payers increased 1.5 times versus the prior year quarter and currently represent 12% of total revenue.

11:16 Clearly, our franchise is strong in Colombia. We have effectively navigated the fallout from last year's payer intervention and have emerged growing at a faster pace. Adjusted EBITDA increased 7% with the margin decreasing by 1.7 percentage points. The lower margin mainly reflects the higher proportion of risk sharing contracts and increased variable costs related to higher volume service in high complexity care. Now I'll turn the call over to Giselle, who will review our results in more detail. Thanks, Susan.

12:02 Beginning with Slide 11, the revenue growth was strong across our regional platform with consolidated revenue reaching billion at quarter end and year over year growth of 10% in FX neutral terms. As Suso noted, the growth followed the strategic measures that we implemented in Mexico and Colombia last year, helping us to build a healthier revenue mix. While Peru continued leveraging its scale to capitalize on the many growth opportunities that remain in its market. Taking a closer look at Mexico's recovery, this was primarily driven by surgery and oncology volumes, which grew 1532% sequentially.

12:53 In Peru, growing B2B sales were a major growth driver, particularly the 20,000 additional plan memberships through the group policy that we secured with the nation's judiciary and in our healthcare network, higher conversion rates drove surgery volumes up significantly while emergency treatments increased 20% from commercial initiatives applied to corporate policy holders. Columbia grew the strongest during the quarter. In addition to the growth drivers that Suso has already highlighted, it is important to note that our capacity utilization returned to twenty twenty four levels before the revenue rebalancing we conducted reducing exposure to government intervening payers.

13:47 Let's now move on to adjusted EBITDA on Slide 12. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA decreased 5% FXN and includes the impact of revenue adjustments in Peru and payroll increases in Mexico due to higher compensation costs related to the newly appointed leadership team and to investments in attracting and incentivizing physicians. In Colombia, a 23 increase in the minimum wage drove compensation costs higher versus last year. Adjusted EBITDA recovered in Mexico growing 19% quarter on quarter versus fourth quarter of twenty twenty five.

14:37 Let's now turn to adjusted net income on Slide number 13. Reflecting the underlying strength of Auna's regional platform, our operating profit increased 11% to million in the first quarter, which was more than offset by non cash FX losses due to the depreciation of the Peruvian sol below the levels of the protective range of the new hedging structure that we put in place at the end of twenty twenty five. This reset will help reduce FX losses in the future, which otherwise would have been higher this quarter.

15:25 Slide 14, please. Our free cash flow increased 2.6 times versus the first quarter of twenty twenty five to million, primarily on a 45 percent increase in pre tax operating cash flow shown at the left of the bridge. This reflects our strong growth coupled with higher cash conversion resulting from solid working capital management as well as supplier financing initiatives that we've undertaken. Moving to the middle of the bridge, CapEx, which represented 3% of revenue primarily consisted of infrastructure upgrades, purchases of medical equipment, and costs related to the implementation of the new hospital information system and ERP, mainly in Mexico.

16:28 This cash use was reduced by an inflow resulting from the continued rebalancing of Auna Seguro's investment portfolio towards liquid securities. The million in financing activities at the right of the bridge is comprised of PEN54 million of interest and hedge premium payments and interest on working capital facilities as well as a million decrease in working capital borrowings. Lastly, on this slide, the increase in free cash flow and the reduction in interest payments mean that we expect positive cash flow generation after interest payments to grow in 2026.

17:21 This will work towards achieving our leverage target of three times in the medium term, while also continuing to invest in our growth initiatives. Let's now move on to Slide 15. We began 2026 with a stronger capital structure benefiting from lower interest expenses and improved maturity profile and reduced FX exposure. It's important to note again that although our leverage ratio rose slightly to 3.7 times in the quarter, this was primarily due to non cash FX effects. Following last year's refinancing exercise, we have generated approximately US8 million dollars in annualized interest plus tax payment efficiencies while reducing short term debt by 40% versus the third quarter of twenty twenty five previous to the refinancing exercise.

18:26 At quarter end, 55 of our debt was denominated in local currency, while the remaining U. S. Dollar denominated debt was 85% hedged to the Peruvian soil. Additionally, 75% of our Mexican floating interest rate debt is also hedged to fixed rate. Finally, it is important to note that Auna has approximately US175 million dollars in revolving credit facilities, of which only approximately $66,000,000 are currently drawn and the remaining $109,000,000 continues to be available. That concludes my review of the quarter.

19:12 Before we open the call for questions, Suso has a few final remarks to wrap up our presentation. Thanks, Jisi. I would like to briefly summarize the key points from today's review. First, given the significant progress we have made in our growth plan and the strong underlying fundamentals across Auna's regional platform, we are reaffirming our annual revenue and EBITDA guidance. Given the base effect of 2025, we expect this growth to be generated in the second semester of the year. Peru has ample room for growth, as demonstrated by the expansion of our healthcare plans. In addition, the TRCA Ambulatory Tower Lima, once completed, will significantly expand our addressable market in the country.

20:05 In the near term, we are implementing initiatives to mitigate the impact of the revenue adjustments. Not only are we shortening our internal billing cycle to ameliorate penalties going forward, but also we will continue increasing our plan members and revenues in our Onco Salud segment. These are just the more immediate initiatives implemented and there will be more to come in our health care network. With a substantially improved payer mix in key service lines, Colombia is experiencing positive performance levels. Growth and profitability are expected to continue strengthening. Furthermore, cash flow remains a priority and growing our risk sharing businesses is a substantial and unique opportunity for Auna.

20:57 Mexico will continue to strengthen, led by higher volumes, improved high complexity mix and growth in our out of pocket segments. Lastly, we expect operating cash flow and organic cash flow to be strong as our integrated health care platform grows across our markets and as we benefit from a more efficient capital structure, which also gives us the financial flexibility to advance our growth strategy this year and beyond. Your first question comes from the line of Mauricio Zepeda from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

21:55 Hello, Susu, Riseli. Good morning. Thanks for the opportunity here. We have two questions. The first one on Mexico, the margin mix there. It seems that you are shifting increasingly towards oncology there and other higher growth service lines. So how should we think about the medium term margin trajectory for the segment? Should we expect investors sorry, should investors expect oncology to structurally dilute margins versus the historical core hospital business? Or do you see room for operating leverage as volumes scale? And the second one is on Colombia, the political and regulatory risk.

22:44 We saw that the exposure to intervene EPS has declined and with EPS dependence is lower, which is obviously positive. But we wanted to know whether it's the additional pressure under a potentially less favorable future government Colombia or any future regulatory environment? And how protected is the current cash generation strategy under a more challenging policy scenario? Thank you. Great. Thank you very much and good morning, Marcelo. How are you? On the first question, so in Mexico, first of all, revenue momentum is real. I think there is momentum in how the new tier classifications of our hospitals there accumulate a growing number of policy members.

23:42 I believe Q2 will capture a full quarter of this tier classification. First Q did not capture all the three months of it. Easter price adjustments have improved dramatically, the contract, and the oncology ramp up, which you mentioned. So volume growth in chemotherapy and radiotherapy and in surgeries is already visible, and we will see margins recover as utilization rises. There's also in the first Q twenty twenty six, some nonrecurring severance and leadership payroll costs, which is minimal, but does take a couple of margin points off. And I see Mexico adjusted EBITDA increased 19% versus 4Q twenty twenty five.

24:35 EBITDA increased 23% on a year on year basis. So we're targeting over 20% EBITDA margin on a consolidated basis for Alnylam. So I do see Oncology has always been a richer business. And I think slowly, it would accrete higher margins. But indeed, it's a scale business, It's not a and so right now, we need to continue to scale. It's growing at double digit numbers of the volumes in Oncology. So we'll see that improve the margins. On Colombia, I would say a couple of things. I my own view is that I've seen we've seen the worst of regulatory changes and political upheaval with President Petro.

25:32 And I think in both scenarios of the current lead in polls and candidates to the presidency, I think the Colombian health care sector will not get worse than that we've seen in 2025. So and we are a unique player with these risk sharing contracts and this with a unique positioning in high complexity. And we see payers grant us a preferred status in their payment list. And that's also critical. So it will not I believe it will not affect we're well prepared in Colombia and it will not affect Auna in the near coming months in this full year.

26:21 And Difei, I don't know if you want to say something about Colombia and accounts receivable and how you see how you yourself see it, you're closer to the payers in the accounting lines as well. Yes, Suso, thank you. Maybe on my end to complement both points, first starting with Mexico then with Colombia. Thank you for the question. I think in the case of Mexico, Suzu was very clear around how revenue trends and fundamental trends that we're seeing in revenue is what's helping us recover margin. And we're seeing that into the first quarter of this year also after the East Leon contracts have been renegotiated. And I think to answer the question of how we're seeing those structural margins in Mexico, it is important to note the recovery that we're seeing into this quarter versus what we saw in the fourth quarter.

27:19 While some of the services included within oncology such as maybe the case of chemotherapy may have lower margins. What we're seeing is that from a consolidated point of view, we will continue to recover margins in Mexico this year and going into next year be closer to those levels that we've talked about before as the structural margins of 30% in Mexico. In the case of Colombia, would compliment that I think Auna has done a really good job in rebalancing its revenue mix and everything that we've mentioned on the call today vis a vis the increase in the percentage of risk sharing contracts as well as the diversification away from intervened payers has helped us to produce the much more solid cash conversion that we've seen over the past twelve to eighteen months.

28:18 And this has been accomplished as a factor of the improved revenue mix. So we are very, very optimistic of what is to come. In the case of Columbia, we think that the new revenue mix will help protect us against any impacts that we might see in the way that the funds flow in the sector and in universal healthcare. And obviously, as we've mentioned previously, we also are being protected by how important we are in the high complexity services in the different cities that we operate in and how that's led to payers prioritizing AUNA in terms of payment. And additionally, we've been very successful in supplier financing initiatives as well in order to balance the complete cash conversion cycle.

29:10 Just to clarify upon Mexico. So if I understood correctly, this margin improvement would be from operating leverage, right? Because the impression is that the marginal or the let's say, the margin of contribution of oncology would be naturally lower, right, than hospital. This kind of margin evolution would be Yes. Thank you so much for the follow-up. Yes, I would add that it's from both operating leverage as well as from variable cost efficiencies, which as we continue to scale and increase volumes and increase occupancies is also something that we are actively managing, and we do continue to see variable cost efficiencies in the years to come.

30:04 And also, Jason, would also add that chemotherapy has an interesting margin, but radiotherapy has a higher margin. And we're inaugurating a new facility, a new equipment state of the art, the only one in Monterrey, that's going to be operational, I think, in a month, one months. Point No, that will also produce a bump in volume, but more importantly in margins as well. Very clear. Thank you. And there are no more questions from the I do apologize.

30:57 Giovanni Vescovy from JPMorgan. Your line is open. Okay. Good morning, team. Thank you very much for taking my question. On our side, we have two questions. First is on understanding the how your company is weighting buyback programs and leverage. Although we understand that the company has a target of three times leverage, we want to see if there are any levels that the company is more attractive having a buyback program, maybe at 4%, four fifty percent on the stock price level? And the other question regards to Esteeleon, we saw nine points contribution margin increase. And we just want to know if there are any more color you can give on future margin increases, if there are any. Thank you. Thank you very much.

31:44 So the Board continually discusses the best use of cash and has been discussing in the past without a decision or a determination to use cash to implement the buyback program. So currently, there is no such decision, although we're at the Board actively discussing the best use of that cash to sustain value and of course, be aligned with the market and investors. And on the second question, so margins from East and New Orleans increased because we renegotiated the whole contract with better volume, much better margins. And more importantly, something that I'm not sure is well represented in our public disclosures is that we have a full control of the usage of devices and pharma to make sure that we control the cost of the services delivered to Isenor Leon. So we're very excited about that contract with much higher margins.

32:57 We believe that, as I indicated before in the previous question, Mexico will continue to improve its margins based on scale. Also, the fact that we're we have benefit also in variable costs, but scale and fixed cost solutions for variable cost efficiencies also will continue to improve generally in Mexico and I think much more significantly our oncology practice there. Jisi, do want to add something on the last point? No. I think Sousa covered it well. Okay. Sorry. Thank you, Jisi. Thank you. And there are no more questions from the phone lines. So I will now turn the call over to Anna Maria Mora from AUNA with some to proceed with the closing comments for the webcast platform.

33:54 Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone. Let me begin with the questions from the webcast. Our system isn't displaying the individual names this morning, but I'd still like to make sure we address the questions themselves. A few of them have already been touched on, if there's anything else you'd like to add to these topics, please jump in. The first question is, can you please comment on the impact related to the postponed rebates related to medicines? And the second part of the question is, in order to reach the guidance, the EBITDA needs to strongly accelerate in the second half of the year. What are the main drivers behind this potentially strong acceleration?

34:44 Great. Maybe I'm going to start with the second question. Jason, you can go into the pharma rebate response. First of all, I want to repeat something that's important. So we enter the remainder of 2026 with improving trends across the three markets. We have clear sight to achieve our annual targets. And that's why we are reaffirming our revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance. It is supported by our revenue growth and cash flow momentum. Definitely, Mexico is improving trends, revenue normalization in Peru and of course, Colombia, which is continuing to grow. So our adjusted EBITDA guidance is that we've contemplated was always softer in the first half of the year.

35:37 And we did see limited growth expected in the first and second quarters. Of course, against that backdrop, our first quarter performance gives us confidence in our ability to deliver this full year adjusted EBITDA range. Our integrated health care model and the social market opportunity that remains in the three market positions, it positions us to deliver on 2026. And I as I indicated repetitively towards higher levels of sustained growth and profitability and, of course, improvements in the margins, as I've indicated. So I think it's important to note that we see how and we projected and we budgeted a second semester that is much stronger than the first semester. It's also important, and we've indicated this in previous calls about the first Q. The first Q is always a slower Q. It shouldn't surprise us at all. We go back to all the since we have come public, we always report the first Q as a softer Q.

36:45 And then, Jisai, do you want to add something on this? Or do you want to go into the pharma rebate question? Yeah. I'll tackle, Sousa, the first part of the question related to the pharmacy rebate that were postponed that we mentioned during the call. Basically this is specifically in the case of Peru where we've had some pharmaceutical rebates that have been delayed into the year to go. They have not been lost. They've simply been delayed. This many times has to do with how we're managing inventories during the year, but it should be a delay into the year to go. Thank you, Lisa.

37:38 I'll on, I'll move on to the second question. Could you elaborate on the revenue adjustments and the delays in pharmacy rebates improve? Do you see them as one off items or a part of a broader trend that could persist going forward? Do you think you want to take that one? Sure. I think we tackled the second part of the question as far as the pharmaceutical rebates. And maybe to tackle the first part on the revenue adjustments also that we saw in Peru this quarter. As we've mentioned during the call, this is related to what we've seen as far as certain penalties that have been applied by certain insurance payers related to billing and just the fact that some of the billing cycles have taken a little bit longer and also certain settlement agreements that are currently being negotiated.

38:44 Is this a one off item? Do we expect it to be recurring? I think it's important to note and as we've mentioned in previous quarters, Auna has been actively working on its cash conversion and revenue cycle management process throughout the three countries and Peru is obviously no exception to that. We have reduced our internal billing cycle materially over the last twelve months and this is going to help to protect us in the current market context that we're seeing in Peru where insurance payers, given the higher level of MLRs, have become much stricter as far as controls and application of penalties when they are seeing that billing increasing in days.

39:30 So I think it's important to note that we are prepared to tackle this market in context. We've been proactively working on it for the last twelve months, and this should help to protect us to mitigate this effect in the coming quarters and be in a better position going into the second half of the year. Thank you, Jiseth. The next question is when do you expect to see an inflection in Mexico margins? And what are the key drivers that should support margin expansion in line with your guidance? Think directionally, responded to that in previous comments. But I think it's fair to say that we see improvement in margins in the remaining many part of the year and more importantly, in the second semester.

40:27 And it's based on what we said before, oncology gaining scale, diluting fixed costs, inefficiencies in variable costs, not only in oncology, but in the rest of the practices. So we do see and today, evidence that we collect, we see improvement in margins clearly in Mexico. And as I indicated before, also in the Isilion contract, a much improved margin in a lot. Thank you, Suso. The next question is about the supplier financing initiatives.

41:13 Could you provide more color on the supply and financial initiatives you have implemented across the three geographies? Yes, great. Thank you for the question. Yes, we've been proactively managing working capital and specifically on the supplier financing initiatives. We have been working on different initiatives on this front. In the case of Peru, the most material has been certain new working capital facilities with certain financial institutions. These structures, additional to what we had in the past, has permitted us to increase accounts payable days. This has had an impact in improving working capital in the quarter.

42:00 And throughout Colombia, as well as Mexico, we have also been able to extend payment days as well as also increase the amount of factoring lines that we're utilizing. Thank you, Jiseth. The next question is on the FX impact. And I'm going to bundle that with another question. Could you elaborate on the FX impact on the Q1 results and the strategy going forward? Also could you discuss the FX loss in the quarter and the income statement as well as the large OCI FX gain via the equity statement? Thank you. Of course.

42:47 So in 2025, we had FX gains that impacted our financial results. And this had to do with last year, the appreciation of the Peruvian sol below the call spread hedges that we had in place before the refinancing exercise. So once we conducted the refinancing exercise in the fourth quarter of last year, we also reset the FX levels in the call spread hedges that we had in place. So now we have a range that is much more in line with current FX levels and that should help to reduce FX volatility in the coming quarters. The impact that we saw in the first quarter of this year was the slight depreciation of the Peruvian sol below the new call spread hedge, but obviously would have been much larger if we had not reset the levels on our hedging instruments.

43:46 And that's why we do expect less FX volatility in the year to go than impacts that we may have seen in the past. As far as the second part of the question related to impacts in of FX impacts, that is correct. Our hedging instruments do receive accounting hedging treatment and therefore their results are also accumulated in the OCI accounts. So I think that tackles both parts of the question. Thank you, Jiseth. The next question is about Colombia. I'm just going to read it. Hi, I have one question. Colombia's PGP revenues reached 21% of segment revenues, up from 15% in 1Q twenty twenty five.

44:38 However, the adjusted EBITDA margin compressed to 11.4%. As PGP scales further, how do you expect the margin profile to evolve going forward? Great. Thank you. So more generally, I'd like to represent that we see stable margins in Colombia. The playbook we have in Auna is one that, first, we capture volume at attractive margins, then we scale that practice to increase margins. And again, I mentioned East Leon and most of our practices, that's a little bit of the strategy that we have in the three countries, in particular in Colombia.

45:30 Colombia's risk sharing business, of course, with seven payers, represents about 2021% of our revenues. This is, of course, some intervening payers have fallen, as we've indicated in the earnings release. Our risk sharing business have high predictability, cash predictability and lower working capital cycle, definitely. It does have an initial small impact on margin. But as I indicated before in the playbook, in addition to that, as we optimize clinical pathways, in Colombia, for example, for more than 3,000,000 people, 3,000,000 covered lives, we see margin expansion through cost dilution, both fixed and also variable.

46:18 So we do see a recovery of a couple of points of margin dilution that we normally see at the onset of the PGP programs. And remember, most of the growth in PGP programs has occurred in 2025. Do you have any want to add on that? Yes. I think that's a good summary, Sousa. I would add that we normally do see lower margins in Colombia in the first quarter of the year, just to clarify that point as well. As Suso mentioned, we should be seeing margins stable to what we've been seeing the last year and also I think increasing versus those levels. And this has to do, as Suso mentioned, we bring in the new risk sharing models and we continue to stabilize those populations.

47:12 So we should see this year margins stable to what we were seeing towards the second half of last year. Thank you. Thank you, Tizen. So the next question is about Mexico. Congrats on a good quarter. Can you comment on the push towards universal healthcare in Mexico by 2027? And if it is likely to change the competitive dynamics and our target opportunity? Sorry, I had a glitch there. Amani, can you repeat please? Sure.

48:00 Congrats on a good quarter. Can you comment on the push towards universal healthcare in Mexico by 2027? And if it is likely to change the competitive dynamics in the target opportunity? Yes. So yes, it's a really interesting initiative by the current government. We are excited because as a player in one of the more sophisticated universal health care markets in Colombia, we've seen ourselves grow, grow in high complexity. What we see today in Mexico, as you say, Leon and some other state institutions, we see a growth and the opportunity to deliver more services to the state.

48:49 That is a growing theme. With Crecca in Peru, we're building a capability of B2G. Universal health care does not mean that the state will be doing everything. It means that the state wants to make sure that the population is fully covered, be it by a state platform or by a private sector platform. We believe that will grow our business. We think it's a really attractive opportunity. And we see the spillover today, the huge spillover from the state sector and the inability to deliver services to citizens.

49:35 So for us, it's an opportunity and not a high risk situation that would go otherwise. Thank you, Tusso. The next question is, could you shed some light on what proportion of costs are fixed and variable in each country? Sure. When we look at the line of of cost of of goods sold, cost of services rendered in each of our geographies impacting gross profit in Auna, variable costs are more than 60% of the total cost of goods sold structure across the three geographies.

50:35 Thank you, Jason. The next question is why do the underlying operating metrics not grow more organically? We thought the market was underpenetrated and naturally your assets would show organic growth in each of your markets. That's an interesting question. I think the markets are underpenetrated principally in relation to players, formal institutional players that can deliver integrated services to the population. We do see organic growth in most of our operations.

51:26 In Mexico, there's been some dislocations, as we discussed in the past, but it is the underlying theme between behind our thesis in the three countries. Organic volume will continue to grow. We see it in high complexity in surgeries, of course, chemotherapy, radiotherapy. We see that growth as the main source of our continued growth over the years. Jisi, do you want to comment on that? Think that's well summarized, Suso. Okay. Thank you. I wanted to complement, Ani, on the previous question. It's really interesting on the universal health care opportunity in Mexico. One of the first things that the initiative tries to resolve is putting together all of the states' different institutions that provide services to the citizens under one same umbrella to allow easiness for citizens to have access to services.

52:33 And then it's very clear that this comes with an important initiative for public private partnerships. So again, we're excited about what's going to happen in Mexico in the B2G sector. And perhaps to complement that point, what was announced in Mexico is not Universal Healthcare. It's better described as the Servicio Universal de Salud, an initiative to integrate access across Mexico's main public health care systems, the IEMs, ISTE, IEMs Vianezar, so people can receive care in public facilities regardless of their institutional affiliation. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus, for complimenting.

53:26 Thank you, Jesus. The next question is How should we think about revenue per patient treatment in the coming years? Will they increase at below or above inflation in your market? So generally, I mean, this is a forward looking question and therefore my statement as well. The way we manage Auna in terms of top line is price, volume and mix, mix related to high complexity versus low complexity. We're more and more focused on GRD, which are a diagnostic index for high complexity.

54:16 And that will produce definitely a higher patient higher revenue per patient treatment. And we manage inflation well in the three countries by at least increasing our pricing to reflect medical inflation, sometimes a little bit over that. That has been the case for many, many years. So I think growth comes at purchasing power parity or a little bit above that in the three markets. Complement you there, Suso.

55:02 Very important what you're noting that we actively manage price, mix and volume in order to have the resulting equation of value creation. And at the end of the day, as Suso mentioned, we've been successful from when you look at our results from a medium and long term perspective in being able to transfer that medical inflation and also have been successful in increasing access. So at the end of the day, we also think that when we look at it purely numerically, we will be growing in a medium and long term perspective above inflation. But a lot of that also has to do with mix and efficiencies. Thank you, Jiset. Thank you, Souto. And to wrap it up, if you could please provide an update on the construction progress of Tove Trecca or on the start of the addendum process.

56:03 Great. So this month, we made substantial progress in the project director in all the designs and definitions. And we the committee, the internal committee already defined the construction consortium. And I think it has been awarded or will be awarded this week. So we will have the construction consortium contract awarded, and we'll start construction immediately. It is important to recognize this is a twenty four month construction process. We believe that we'll get this done a little bit shorter than that between eighteen months and twenty four.

56:50 And as I indicated before, it will be awarded this week. Great. Thank you, Suso. And with that, we have reached the end of our question queue today. Thank you all for your time and participation. And Suso, let me hand it back to you for some final thoughts. Thank you very much, Andy. So I just wanted to tell the investor community that we're excited about what's happening, but we're also sensitive to the fact that sometimes we come to the market and report things that are surprises, revenue reconciliations and approval. We will do much better. We'll make sure that there are very few surprises and we're much more deliberate and predictable.

57:39 And we want to simplify this story so that everybody that follows us, investors and of course, research institutions can more easily understand what we're doing without all the adjustments that we have. We're very focused on this. And I think during the course of the year, we should be able to deliver something that much simpler to digest. But underlying that, our underlying business is growing, and that's very important. We're back on track, but we will scale, we will improve our margins, and we will deliver more and better services to the communities and populations that we serve. Thank you very much, everybody, and I appreciate having this opportunity to share my thoughts, our thoughts with you guys and also respond to your questions. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.