Adeia (NASDAQ:ADEA) Q2 2026 Earnings Call

0:00 Good day, everyone. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Adeia's second quarter twenty twenty six earnings conference call. During today's presentation, all parties will be in a listen only mode. Following the presentation, the call will be open for questions. I would now like to turn the call over to Chris Cheney, Vice President and Investor Relations for ADEA. Chris, please go ahead. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us as we share with you details of our quarterly financial results. With me on the call today are Paul

0:31 Davis, our President and CEO, and Keith Jones, our CFO. Paul will share with you some general observations regarding the quarter, and then Keith will give further details on our financial results and guidance. We will then conclude with a question and answer period. In addition to today's earnings release, there is an earnings presentation, which you can access along with the webcast in the IR portion of our website. Before turning the call over to Paul, I would like to provide a few reminders. First, today's discussion contains forward looking statements that are predictions, projections or other statements about future events, which are based on management's current expectations and beliefs and therefore are subject to risks, uncertainties and changes in circumstances.

1:21 For more information on the risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from what we discuss today, please refer to the Risk Factors section in our SEC filings, including our annual report on Form 10 ks and our quarterly report on Form 10 Q. Please note that the company does not intend to update or alter these forward looking statements to reflect events or circumstances arising after this call. To enhance investors' understanding of our ongoing economic performance, we will discuss non GAAP information during this call. We use non GAAP financial measures internally to evaluate and manage our operations. We have therefore chosen to provide this information to enable you to perform comparisons of our operating results as we do internally.

2:13 We have provided reconciliations of these non GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in the earnings release, the earnings presentation and on the Investor Relations section of our website. A recording of this conference call will be made available on the Investor Relations website at adia.com. Now I'd like to turn the call over to our CEO, Paul Davis. Thank you, Chris, and thank you everyone for joining us today. I'm pleased to share our results for the second quarter of twenty twenty six and our strong performance in the first half of the year. Our second quarter results were in line with our expectations as we delivered revenue of $96,000,000 with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 59%.

3:01 We had another excellent quarter of cash generation, producing $55,000,000 in cash from operations. We ended the quarter with $137,000,000 in cash while executing on all four pillars of our capital allocation strategy. We closed six license agreements during the quarter and added a record 12 new customers in total. Our first half performance included solid execution across all aspects of our business, closing license agreements with Microsoft, AMD, Google and our recent deal with RPX that further accelerates our e commerce business. We also continue to invest in growing our leading media and semiconductor portfolios and believe we are well positioned for the long term.

3:55 The progress we've made to date is in line with our expectations. So we are reiterating our 2026 revenue guidance of $395,000,000 to $435,000,000 Our non Pay TV recurring revenue is strong and thriving, growing 54% year over year in the second quarter and is now nearly double the size of our Pay TV recurring revenue. Despite the known headwinds in Pay TV, including recent litigation matters, our pipeline is robust and we are confident in our long term trajectory. The timing of resolution to any litigation, however, is difficult to predict and thus could impact us in the short term.

4:45 As we look at the remainder of the year, our diversified and growing pipeline continues to provide multiple paths to achieve our revenue goals for 2026. As we have stated before, we tend to do big deals and operationally we lean towards being a relatively small volume, high dollar shop. As always, we will remain disciplined in closing deals that are in the best long term interest of the company and its stakeholders. Our range of outcomes for the year reflects this approach and will be impacted by the ultimate timing of when we sign license agreements, which we continue to have the utmost confidence in being able to do. Importantly, as we have seen in the past, to the extent any opportunities move out of 2026, they provide a springboard for us in the following year.

5:41 One of our most significant license agreements in the second quarter was a multi year renewal with Google for access to our media portfolio. Google has been a valued customer for approximately fifteen years and this renewal reflects the continued relevance and strength of our media portfolio for pay TV. YouTube TV, which is operated by Google, has become one of the most important players in the pay TV market with subscriber growth that has dramatically outpaced many of its peers. Its scale and trajectory are a clear demonstration of the ongoing migration from traditional pay TV to virtual MVPD services. And our portfolio is well positioned to capture that shift.

6:30 With the renewal of Google combined with our Disney agreement signed last year, which includes Hulu plus Live TV, we now count two of the largest and fastest growing virtual MVPD platforms in the country as our customers. Also in the second quarter, we made excellent progress in e commerce, closing a seminal multi year license agreement with RPX, a leading patent risk solutions company. This unique deal includes 10 participating member companies in a single agreement, giving them a term license to our growing media portfolio of approximately 10,900 patent assets. This deal was driven by our e commerce technologies, including intelligent search, virtual shopping experiences and consumer engagement across connected platforms.

7:27 The RPX members include a broad consortium of market leaders across the digital commerce ecosystem, spanning apparel, beauty, online marketplaces, delivery networks, and enterprise technology platforms. With the progress we've made in the past two years, we believe this business can grow over the long term to a size similar to our consumer electronics business, which has been approximately 10% of our total revenue. Other deals signed in the second quarter include a new multi year license agreement with L'Oreal, a leading cosmetics and personal care company, a new multi year license agreement with a leading provider of streaming documentary programming and renewals with a leading European pay TV provider and a consumer electronics manufacturer in Japan.

8:24 Renewals are a cornerstone of our business model. With our renewal rate at over 90%, the vast majority of our customers renew with us because we continue to innovate and build positive relationships with them. I am pleased to announce that given the optimism in the trajectory of our business and particularly the semiconductor market, we are raising our long term revenue target to $600,000,000 from $500,000,000 annually. Let me begin briefly with media and then provide more color on semiconductors. Our growth objective for our media business over the long term remains unchanged at $400,000,000 annually.

9:12 Bolstered by our success and growing market adoption of our technology, we see key verticals such as OTT, e commerce, consumer electronics and social media as catalysts for growth. Moving to the semiconductor industry, we continue to see rapid evolution in the market and the increasing demands from AI have induced an unprecedented acceleration in the development and production of highly advanced logic and memory devices. This new super cycle is driving the semiconductor market to reach over $1,500,000,000,000 this year. Hybrid bonding has become a critical enabler of next generation chip architectures, helping to solve density, performance and thermal management challenges.

10:09 We are very excited about the opportunities that lie ahead for our semiconductor business, given these industry dynamics and increasing need for our technologies. We had previously estimated this opportunity to be a $100,000,000 annually, Driven by the broader and faster adoption of hybrid bonding, we now expect our long term semiconductor opportunity to reach $200,000,000 annually. Custom and general purpose logic providers are already or will soon be incorporating hybrid bonding in both enterprise and consumer related products.

10:50 Apple, Intel and Broadcom all have products ramping into production using hybrid bonding further building on the momentum from our recent license agreement with AMD. And according to industry reports, Nvidia's Feynman will also incorporate hybrid bonding beginning in 2028. High bandwidth memory and flash for both enterprise and consumer markets are also incorporating hybrid bonding. We believe hybrid bonding will be a requirement in HBM with 20 or more layers if not sooner. Three d NAND leader, SanDisk and Kyoksha, both customers of ours began using hybrid bonding for NAND in 2023 and we believe others will follow as layer counts approach 400.

11:45 We know broad adoption of hybrid bonding is coming because the capital equipment required is being ordered. To meet demand for these next generation devices, leading foundries, memory companies and OSAS are planning to spend approximately $125,000,000,000 in the near term for advanced packaging, including hybrid bonding. Our investments in semiconductor innovations are coming to fruition and the opportunities in front of us are very exciting. Let me now turn to our efforts to further diversify and grow our recurring revenue. As noted earlier, our non pay TV recurring revenue grew an impressive 54% year over year in the second quarter, continuing a multi quarter trend.

12:40 I could not be more pleased with this progress and it is a result of our execution and focus since our separation from Xperi almost four years ago. We knew Pay TV would remain a core part of our business and we have continued to invest in it, but we also knew given the secular trends of that industry, we needed to find other avenues of growth. Our teams across R and D, sales and patent portfolio development have executed extremely well to this vision, maintaining our relevance and strength in Pay TV, while at the same time impressively growing our business well beyond it. Our IP portfolios are at the foundation of everything we do and we continue to invest in them strategically.

13:33 In the second quarter, we completed six tuck in IP portfolio acquisitions for $9,500,000 focused primarily on e commerce, OTT and imaging. Our portfolio grew to over 14,250 patent assets in the second quarter, up approximately 4% from the first quarter. In total, we have grown our patent portfolios by almost 5,000 patent assets since separation. The vast majority of this growth generated organically.

14:12 Consistent with our commitment to defending our IP, earlier this quarter we filed patent infringement claims against Fubo asserting four patents from our media portfolio. We are disappointed we could not reach acceptable terms for a new license agreement. Our goal as always is a business resolution, a license agreement that reflects the underlying value of our IP.

14:39 I want to be clear that this matter is completely separate from our license agreement with Disney. Fubo represents a distinct opportunity and the litigation has no impact on our license agreement with Disney. I also want to provide a brief update on the CEO search we announced in connection with our first quarter results.

15:01 The board search process is going well. We have engaged a nationally recognized search firm and the board is actively evaluating candidates. As a reminder, we anticipate announcing a successor by the fourth quarter of this year.

15:17 In the meantime, I want to reassure our stakeholders that is business as usual at ADEA. The same strategy, same team and same goals. Our team remains energized and focused on executing our business plan and our pipeline remains strong. I remain fully committed to driving the business toward our goals for 2026 and to position the company for continued long term success. I am proud of what we have built together and I remain excited about what lies ahead. Our execution in the second quarter was great across the board and our revenue was in line with expectations. As we look to the second half of the year, our pipeline remains strong across both media and semiconductors and we are committed to achieving our full year objectives.

16:11 Our team is building something special at ADEA, and with the tremendous progress we've made, I am confident in our trajectory towards our newly revised long term $600,000,000 annual goal for revenue.

16:27 With that, I will turn the call over to Keith. Thank you, Paul. I'm pleased to be speaking with you today to share details of our second quarter twenty twenty six financial results. During the second quarter, we delivered results that were in line with our expectations. Revenue of $96,100,000 was driven by the execution of six license agreements across a diverse mix of customers, including OTT, e commerce, consumer electronics, and pay TV.

16:57 Our second quarter was highlighted by our renewal with Google and a new license agreement with RPX. In all, we added a record 12 new customers in the quarter. Now I would like to discuss our operating expenses for which I'll be referring to non GAAP numbers only. During the second quarter, operating expenses were $40,200,000 a decrease of $2,700,000 or 6% from the prior quarter. The decrease was primarily due to lower litigation and personal related costs. Research and develop expenses were essentially flat compared to the prior quarter.

17:39 Selling, general and administrative expenses decreased $2,000,000 or 10% from the prior quarter, primarily due to lower personal related expenses. Litigation expense was $5,300,000 a decrease of $639,000 or 11% compared to the prior quarter, primarily driven by lower spending on AMD due to the resolution of litigation in the prior quarter, which was partially offset by new litigation matters.

18:11 Interest expense during the second quarter was $8,000,000 a decrease of $511,000 primarily due to our debt repayments and due to lower variable interest rates during the period. Our current effective interest rate, which includes amortization of debt issuance costs was 7.1%. Other income was $1,700,000 and was primarily related to interest earned on our cash and investment portfolio and due to interest income recognized on revenue agreements with long term billing structures under ASC six zero six.

18:46 Our adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter was $56,400,000 reflecting adjusted EBITDA margin of 59%. Depreciation expense for the second quarter was $480,000 Our non GAAP income tax rate was 21% for the quarter. Our income tax expense consists primarily of federal and state domestic taxes, as well as Korean withholding taxes.

19:16 Now for a few details on the balance sheet. We ended the second quarter with $137,100,000 in cash, cash equivalents, and marketable securities, and we generated $54,600,000 in cash from operations.

19:33 We made $6,100,000 in principal payments on our debt in the second quarter and ended the quarter with a term loan balance of $392,600,000. We repurchased approximately 353,000 shares of our common stock for $10,000,000 bringing the remaining amount available for future repurchases to $140,000,000 under our current stock repurchase program.

19:58 Our strong financial performance in the second quarter once again allowed us to execute on all four pillars of our balanced capital allocation approach. This includes paying down our debt, repurchasing shares, paying our dividend, and making tuck in portfolio acquisitions.

20:18 We paid a cash dividend of 5¢ per share of common stock. Our board also approved payment of another 5¢ per share dividend to be paid on September 14 to shareholders of record as of August 24.

20:34 For 2026, we are reiterating our prior revenue guidance range of $3.95 to $435,000,000. Our pipeline remains strong and reflects the widespread adoption of our technologies across both the media and semiconductor markets. Operating expenses are expected to be in the range of 184 to $192,000,000. We expect interest expense to be in the range of 34 to $36,000,000. We expect other income to be in the range of 5.5 to $6,500,000.

21:16 We expect a resulting adjusted EBITDA margin of approximately 55%. We expect the non GAAP tax rate to be 21 for the full year. We also expect capital expenditures to be approximately $2,000,000 for the full year. I am truly excited about our future. The increase in our long term revenue outlook to $600,000,000 annually is a clear reflection of this enthusiasm.

21:45 We find ourselves at the right place at the right time with the right assets, and our entire team remains dedicated to executing on this goal. That brings it into our prepared remarks. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to the operator to begin our question and answer session. Operator?

22:31 Your first question comes from the line of Scott Searle with ROTH Capital. Please go ahead. Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. Nice job in the quarter and nice to see the semi momentum starting to build. Maybe quickly on that point, Keith, I'm not sure if I heard a number in terms of mix between media and semis. I'm wondering if you could provide that. And then Paul, just in terms of the opportunity pipeline on the semi front, it seems like it's really started to broaden post the AMD deal, as you start to see hybrid bonding being

23:02 pulled into a lot of different areas within logic that previously hadn't been contemplated. I'm wondering if you could expand upon that in terms of vertically integrated hyperscalers, AI inference, other edge devices that are starting to pull in to give us a little bit more color and understand what the level of engagement is on the semi front. Hey, Scott, Great to hear from you. So just to kind of start off with that breakout between media and semiconductor.

23:27 Semi was about $14,800,000 in revenue for q two. And if you look on a year to date basis, I'm I'm just pleased to say that semi year to date is about $48,000,000 off of that $200,000,000 number that we posted, so about 24%. So just really good growth if you compare that to what we were in a full year last year about $26,000,000, you can clearly see our CME businesses headed in in a great direction.

23:54 Yeah, Scott. And then on the pipeline, you you got it right. I mean, it's really across the board, that we're seeing hybrid bonding adoption. I noted some of it, on my call with logic players, really beyond AMD. AMD was ahead of the curve as we mentioned before. They started shipping, hybrid bonded, logic devices in 2022. But now we're seeing it with Broadcom and Intel is ramping, even Apple has chips production as well and then, there's there's industry reports that Nvidia's famine in 2028, will will incorporate hybrid bonding. So, you know, we're we're very excited about that opportunity and then you mentioned, hyperscalers as well. I've said this, publicly a number of times that, you know, these hyperscalers are semiconductor companies now, you know, and I believe that they're all focused on differentiating, you know, their own, you know, products and services with their semiconductor chips, and that's gonna create additional opportunity for us.

25:01 And then lastly, you know, what we're seeing in the NAND market and HBM, you know, the proof is really in in what we're seeing in the CapEx build out. You know, I mentioned a $125,000,000,000 CapEx build out for advanced, packaging including hybrid bonding, but also we you know, there's reports that, Samsung has ordered, you know, 50 bonding tools, and so, you know, all of this just just lines up with what we have been anticipating,

25:28 which is tremendous adoption of hybrid bonding, which is giving us that confidence in formally increasing our target to 200,000,000 annually for the semiconductor business, which we are very excited Great. That's very helpful. And maybe shifting gears into the media side of the equation. We've gone through a transition here with DIRECTV and DISH kind of coming out of the numbers. But now it seems like you've got a broadened opportunity pipeline that's more diverse across different customers, different categories. And so I guess the question is, given what you're seeing in the non pay TV revenue and growth, should we expect to see recurring revenue within media now on a growth trajectory that we've kind of absorbed the hits on DIRECTV and DISH?

26:16 Yeah, I think we are really proud of our non pay TV recurring revenue growth. This is something that we were very strategic about since our separation. We knew like everybody else knew where the pay TV industry was going. We have had some more headwinds because of some of this litigation that we might've not anticipated a few years ago but this is the diversification play coming into fruition and you're seeing that really across the board. I think the highlights I would say is obviously OTT, and then e commerce, are big contributors to that growth, but even consumer electronics and social media are contributing as well to that growth.

27:02 And then we have plans to continue to expand into different adjacent markets on the media side as well. And those are starting to ramp in addition to what we already have contributing with e commerce. So we're really pleased across the board on that and I do think we're a continued growth phase. We've had you know, continued consistent growth since our, you know, separation from from Xperi, where we have, built on our non pay TV recurring revenue quarter over quarter. There's occasionally dips just because of deal timing where you'll see that and structure of deals and then it will ramp back up. But if you look at just a line across the board over the last four years, it is up into the right and we expect that to continue.

27:53 Great. Thanks so much. Great job and I'll get back in the queue. Your next question comes from the line of Kevin Cassidy with Rosenblatt Securities. Please go ahead. Yes. Thanks for taking my questions and congratulations on the great results and the better outlook. And speaking of the better outlook, the $100,000,000 extra in semiconductors, I know you haven't given a timeframe, but were you thinking that this is within the same timeframe that you thought you could get to $100,000,000 now in that same timeframe you can get to 200,000,000 Yeah, that's right, Kevin. I think we talk about, we call it long term, I think broadly speaking, we think about that in about five years, right, is what we think about when we do our long range planning and we think that that is achievable in that timeframe now for that 200,000,000 semiconductor target.

28:51 Again, it's really the catalyst that I just mentioned to Scott, it's both logic and memory and by memory, I really do mean NAND and HBM, it's not just HBM, which we continue to be very bullish on as we get to 20 layers or so, but NAND as we get to 400 layers, there's a real need for hybrid bonding for the big three memory guys and we think they're all ramping to get there. And so it's on both sides of their memory businesses and that's what excites us as well in addition to all the CapEx build out that we're seeing. Yes, I'd agree with that with SK Hynix on their second quarter earnings call. They even said that they're preparing next generation and they say in addition to hybrid bonding.

29:46 But they also said that iHBM, they mentioned this as having thermal dissipation is RapidCool ready for licensing or is this something that might be in discussion? When we think about RapidCool, yeah, we think it is a part of this catalyst as well. Again, we license on a portfolio wide basis, right? But one of the things that differentiates us from other licensing companies is really the innovation story and rapid cool is a great thing for us to showcase, right? On that innovation, it's new, it's solving a big problem that the industry is trying to deal with right now. Thermal management as you know, Kevin is at the heart of a lot of what these companies are worried about and we're showing a solution that is, can be adopted, right? That is not so wild that it creates some totally new ecosystem. It's as I've mentioned before, it's plug and play in these current data centers, right? And it uses existing equipment.

30:50 And so, yeah, we think it can be also, you know, a really important, element to our relicensing efforts, with the memory players, but also in logic as we've talked about before and so, yeah, it's part of that story, hybrid bonding is kind of now, so we focus on that, but rapid cool is definitely an element of that re licensing effort as well as we talk to customers about how our portfolio continues to grow and evolve. Okay, great. And maybe if I just ask one other question about the tuck in acquisitions of the IP portfolio. First, what IP was that in semiconductors or media and did they include any employees or was it just patents?

31:42 Yes. So, as I think we've mentioned before, we're focused on our tuck in acquisitions really being in all of our growth areas. So this quarter it was media focused. So e commerce, OTT and imaging whereas the primary technology areas that we, acquired in, but we are evaluating semiconductor portfolios, as in addition to other media growth areas as well. We've got a strong pipeline in our acquisitions. These particular ones were patent focused, but we do remain open to looking at inventive teams and doing acqui hires as well as patent acquisitions. That's part of what we evaluate as well.

32:34 Okay, great. Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Hamed Khorsand with BWS Financial. Please go ahead. Hi. Could you just talk about a little bit about your sales pipeline of or potential deals and if anything makes you uncomfortable as far as the timing not happening this year, There's any of those possibilities? You know, Hamed, first of all, thanks for the question. Good to speak with you. You know, I think our pipeline is quite robust. You know, I I was mentioning to someone, just you know, I I feel really good about where we are and if I think about even comparing it into to years past, you know, I think we've got, an incredibly robust, set of opportunities, to deliver on our commitments for this year.

33:26 And it can come from various different avenues, right? And I think the momentum we are seeing in e commerce on the heels of our PX deal is tremendous for example. But in addition, obviously the OTT and semiconductor semiconductor momentum continues on as well. And so, when I look forward, there are a number of ways for us to get there and they include even potentially some of the pay TV items that we've got in dispute, which obviously can move the needle quite a bit. But as you know, we are a small volume high dollar shop, right? And so, the good news is this year we've got more in our, past to get there than we have in the past as I mentioned, last quarter and that continues on.

34:16 I guess what I'm trying to get to is, right now you're on pace for the low end of your revenue guidance range. I'm just trying to understand like what's the outlook to get to the high end? Are you depending on one or one or two deals? Sure, I think we've got a number of ways to get within our range. If I look at last year, for example, right, we were at about 170 at this point, we had two quarters of 85, right. This year we're at the midpoint, we're at $20.01. So we're in better shape than we were last year. We always tend to be a little back end loaded in terms of when deals tend to come to fruition and that's no different this year. It's a little better than it has been in the past quite frankly. And so, we continue to have really good discussions, with customers both on the renewal and new deal front.

35:09 And Hamed, I would also add to that, that when I took a look at our internal forecast, our internal forecast looks a lot like the consensus models out there as well. Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Galinko with Maxim Group. Please go ahead. Thanks for taking my questions. Maybe firstly, I think your 2Q operating cash flow number was historically relatively high and I think it brought you to a relatively high cash balance as well. Can you maybe talk about how you are feeling with your current cash balance and cash flow that kind of reached year to date and what we might expect through the balance of the year?

36:11 Yeah. Hey, Matt. Great question. So actually, if you take a look at that cash where you ended at a $137,000,000, it's actually pretty consistent where we ended at the end of December of last year. And, really, we got a couple of things. We had a great start to the year. Typically, q two and q three are pretty light for us in cash generation from cash from operations. But, as you can see, q two was very, very, very strong. For the full year, our outlook still is the same in terms of about a $150,000,000 or give or take, for the full year, which once again kinda going back to q three being relatively light. So, you know, we'd anticipate, cash from operations in q three to be fairly modest, and then have a resurgence back in in in q four. And we also have a good number of commitments.

37:09 As we go through an operator or or business, we have a dividend program. We we pay down our debt. And last but definitely not least, we are acquisitive. So, we built up probably a little bit higher bit of cash knowing some of those things were coming in light of having a softer, or a lighter cash from operations in q three. But with that being said, our targets are still the same. When we the year in 2026, we anticipate cash being, at that $100,000,000 number that we typically target to get to. Alright. Thank you. And maybe as a follow-up, RPX is an interesting counterparty. It's I think first time I can remember you announcing a license with RPX. So can you talk a little bit about how the negotiation was there?

38:03 And do you think there's additional opportunity to license to, you know, portions of RPX's client or subscriber base or, you know, how should we think about, that as a counterparty? Thanks. Yeah. Thanks, Matt. You know, Yeah, we're really pleased with the RPX deal. We do think it is one that we can potentially replicate going forward. It is important to note though that it's consistent with our licensing program, right? And so it's term based, right? It is something that we see though as really helpful in terms of when you're looking at so many customers and potential customers that we have in the e commerce space to really reduce friction potentially, right? And I think RPX was a great partner for us in that regard. I'm not gonna get into the details of what the negotiations were, but we're really pleased with our conversations and relationship with RPX.

39:04 And we do think that this, I'll just say the style of the deal can be potentially replicated going forward. I think getting 10 companies essentially under license at one time is fantastic for us, right? And it's something that, I think when we look at e commerce in particular, we started really this business in e commerce about two years ago, we got our first license agreement just at the end of twenty twenty four, right? And now it is a significant meaningful contributor to our business and our revenue and we see it growing pretty significantly from here. And so, yeah, it's a great deal for us, very pleased with the relationship with RPX and see the deal structure as one that we could replicate moving forward.

39:57 Thank you. That concludes our question and answer session. I will now turn the call back over to chief executive officer Paul Davis for closing remarks. Thank you, operator. Once again, I would like to thank our employees for their hard work and dedication and also our shareholders, partners and customers for their ongoing support. Over the next several weeks, we will be participating in the Oppenheimer Annual TMT Conference, the Rosenblatt Age of AI Conference, the Needham Annual Semi and Semi Cap Conference and the BWS Investor Conference. We look forward to speaking with you at these and other events.

40:45 Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.